Subject: Re: Volunteers wanted for NetBSD-FreshPorts interface
To: Dan Langille <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Hubert Feyrer <email@example.com>
Date: 12/28/2000 03:50:35
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Dan Langille wrote:
Just making a few uneducated comments - I'm not very familiar with XML and
esp. DTD language:
Message-Id="200012241055.eBOAt0w89958@freefall.freebsd.org" Date="Sun, 24
Dec 2000 02:54:59 -0800 (PST)" To="cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG,
cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender="owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject="cvs
commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/tar prepend_args.c prepend_args.h
Makefile tar.1 tar.c" />
<FILE Path="src/gnu/usr.bin/tar/Makefile" Changes="+3
-1" Revision="22.214.171.124" Action="Modify" />
Wouldn't it be clearer to not stuff all that data as parameters into the
MESSAGE and FILE tags, but rather give them sub-items(or what's that
<DATE>Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:54:59 -0800 (PST)</DATE>
<SUBJECT>cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/tar prepend_args.c prepend_args.h Makefile tar.1 tar.c</SUBJECT>
I think you get the idea.
> > I'd say it's
> > rather difficult to gather that information,
> Sorry, I got lost here. Which information is difficult to gather? If it's in
> the source-changes mail, it can be parsed. That's what FreshPorts
> does now. That's what is being done to get the new XML data format.
> That coding should be done within the next 24 hours.
Hum, sounds like some fiddling, but as long as I'm not the one who has to
do it... ;-)
> > esp. as a commit may not
> > actually do any functional change (e.g. I just committed a text change to
> > a pkg/DESCR file), or a pkg upgrade may consist of several seperate
> > commits. Where is the line?
> Where is what line? Sorry, I'm lost.
The line to differentiate between two pkg updates. But as you seem to use
this for something else than I thought initially - ignore me. ;)
> > I guess most people are interrested if a pkg is
> > updated what the changes are, and that's it. They'll update their source
> > then, and install the pkg. Or what is the exact idea behind this very
> > fine-grained update information?
> FreshPorts needs to know if any of the following have changed:
> Makefile, pkg-descr, pkg-comment. They contain information which
> FreshPorts provides via the website. If those files change, they need to
> bed extracted from the online repository and used to update the
> FreshPorts database.
OK. Please note that NetBSD still uses the "old" FreeBSD layout
(pkg/DESCR, patches/patch-*, ...).
> BTW: once a commit is done, are the files immediately avaiable via
No. I don't know how often cvsweb is updated, sorry.
Anoncvs is update every 6 hours or so. And I think for what you wand
(push-based updating), anoncvs would be best. At least the "cvs
rdiff" commands in the NetBSD commit mails can be used 1:1 to retrieve
There's an archive of NetBSD commit messages at
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes, the pkgsrc commits all have a
subject of "CVS commit: pkgsrc". If you or whoever works on the mail2xml
script wants to take a stab at parsing that, that would be cool. I figure
it's probably rather easy to adopt an existing script, esp. when you're
familiar with it. Ascii versions of these mails can be fetched from the
(outdated :/) archive at
One difference between the message formats just came to me - NetBSD does
not have a lines changed "-lines +lines" entry anywhere in that mail.
Let me know if I can be of any help...
Hubert Feyrer <firstname.lastname@example.org>