Subject: RE: Changes to the NetBSD Packages Collection in August 2000
To: Alistair Crooks <>
From: Ryan M. Hurst <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 09/14/2000 04:05:58
Thanks to every one for getting back to me so quickly (the NetBSD community
is one of the reasons I run NetBSD)!

Yes, bringing in KDE2 would involve bringing in a bunch of changes (7
packages?) and I understand why we would not want to do that so close to a
release. It just seemed that KDE2 offered a significant upgrade from the
KDE1 stuff we currently have and kOffice certanly looks interesting. So it
seemed like it might make an interesting addition to the 1.5 CDs.

Why KDE and not Enlightenment? I really like enlightenment (small and
efficient) But isn't it really more of a question of why KDE vs. GNOME. I
have had lots of problems with GNOME with its control panel application
crashing, etc. I also am one of those people who like to have a full unified
desktop environment. I have thought about looking at the HELIX distribution
of GNOME compiled, especially since they will be picking up Open Office as
part of their package (I already use StarOffice right now) but KDE has been
working well for me (although it is BIG) so I just havr not had the
motivation to look into it much.

Well, since I have every ones attention ;) I have could couple of other
questions also :

1) Are we looking into the project?
2) When releases source will we be replacing our StarOffice
package with a native port for BSD? (eg no more Linux emulation and kernel
3) Are we looking at picking up the latest StarOffice build in package
4) Are we looking at picking up a more recent racoon?


-----Original Message-----
From: Alistair Crooks []
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 1:18 AM
To: Nick Hudson; Ryan M. Hurst
Subject: Re: Changes to the NetBSD Packages Collection in August 2000


On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:41:21 +0100, Nick Hudson wrote:

>  "Ryan M. Hurst" wrote:
>  >
>  > Hello, I was wondering if we are considering adding KDE 2.0 to the
>  > distribution for 1.5. I think that it is supposed to ship any time now,
>  > it offers a bunch of new stuff. Are we looking into this?
>  I've played with beta of KDE 2.0, but got distracted by getting a
>  libtool with multi-language support working properly with NetBSD (I'm
>  getting very very close now). In the mean time I've got a qt2 package
>  ready.
>  THe thing is though I think this will all be post freeze unless I'm
>  given the go ahead.

As Nick mentions, we're currently subjecting pkgsrc to a freeze in
the runup to the 1.5 tag and release. This means that no new
functionality will be added without a stonking good reason, especially
where it affects a number of other packages, as is the case with kde2.

Having said that, most people I've talked to seem to keep fairly
up-to-date with pkgsrc, even machines running NetBSD Release Branch
software, so expect to see some interesting commits when the tag
is made and the freeze is lifted.

The only other question is: why do you want a kde2 package? Is the
enlightenment package broken? :-) :-) :-)


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