Subject: Re: make update
To: Jukka Marin <>
From: David Brownlee <>
List: tech-pkg
Date: 05/17/2000 22:38:24
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jukka Marin wrote:

> On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 01:53:54PM -0400, Andrew Gillham wrote:
> > Jukka Marin writes:
> > > BUT upgrading packages always drives me grazy.  Yesterday, I wanted to install
> > > AbiWord.
> > 
> > Heh, I can't count the number of times I've rebuilt KDE because of this.
> I don't even want to _think_ how long this would take on my SS1+.  This is

	That is why we should have large sets of binary packages on :)

> the third day now and I still don't have AbiWord.  Now I'm stuck because
> gnome-libs won't build - because it says "IMLIB 1.8 not installed - please
> install first" - although pkg_info says "imlib-1.9.8" has been installed.
	People really _REALLY_ need to check dependencies when they update
	a package. 'lintpkgsrc -d' will do a reasonable job. Maybe those
	running bulk package builds would like to tag the output of
	'lintpkgsrc -d' to the end?

> > I usually will end up run pkg_delete for *everything*, and starting over
> > from scratch.
> I guess that's the only way to get my machine going again.  I think the
> package system was probably written by m$.  "Got a problem?  Easy!  Just
> install everything again from scratch [thrice]!"

	Its a difficult balance to achieve. In order to avoid ever hitting
	the situation where a bunch of packages have been removed and
	cannot be reinstalled you really need to build and install
	everything into a different DESTDIR, _then_ pkg_delete and copy
	across into PREFIX. You would probably want a first phase where it
	created symlinks from DESTDIR to everything in PREFIX which was
	needed for the packages being updated.

	Anyone up for the job? :)


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