Subject: Re: Resetting ip, icmp etc statistics
To: Liam J. Foy <>
From: Bill Studenmund <>
List: tech-net
Date: 04/03/2006 09:44:21
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On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 11:18:30AM +0100, Liam J. Foy wrote:
> On 23:24, Fri 31 Mar 06, Bill Studenmund wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 10:54:34PM +0200, Havard Eidnes wrote:
> > My concern with "checkpointing", as it's described so far, is that it
> > really only permits you one level of checkpointing, for a lot of work. =
> > We: 1) double the number of counters, 2) incriment these extra counters
> > (ok, this isn't so bad, and could be adjusted with some implementation
> > magic so that you only incriment one counter), 3) teach almost all
> > counter-using programs about these new counters, and 4) teach
> > administrators about all these new counters. And we only get one
> > checkpoint.
> Well, you wouldn't really be incrementing these other counters at all,
> merely copying them so no magic implementation would really be needed
> from how I see it.

Huh? What you said touches on point (2) above, but not on any of the other=
points. Sure, we can make it so we only incriment one counter, but that's=
the easy part of all this.

The "magic" is that userland thinks there are multiple counters when there=
aren't (I think it'd be a bad idea to make userland fetch a counter and an=
offset and have to do the subtraction).

But points (1) and (2) are the easy ones. They aren't why I think separate
counters are too much work for the benefit. That's in points (3), (4), and
the lack of scalability. :-)

Take care,


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