Subject: Re: perhaps time to check our TCP against spec?
To: Jonathan Stone <>
From: Jason Thorpe <>
List: tech-net
Date: 04/07/1998 17:52:30
On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:08:38 -0700 
 Jonathan Stone <jonathan@DSG.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

 > just so you understand how serious I am about this:
 > Unless NetbSD includes the old, pre-in_maxtu  negotation, and
 > has that on by default,  I am not going to run NetBSD on my laptop.

Jonathan, just to be clear, I don't particularly care what you do.  Your
personal choices don't affect my decisions at all.

 > Further, I am going to tell anyone at Stanford who asks me about which
 > version of Unix to run, that they should NOT choose NetBSD, because
 > Jason Thorpe ( has deliberately made NetBSD's TCP
 > violate historical practice, and that the NetBSD developers have said
 > publicaly that they are not interested in supporting the requirements
 > of instutions which, like Stanford, have large networks, with lots of
 > legacy equipment, designed using the prevalent best-practice rules of
 > the late 1980s and early 1990s.
 > In those exact words.
 > Fair warning.

I suppose you won't be running BSD/OS, either.

In any case, eventually we'll have Path MTU Discovery enabled by deafault,
too, so I guess that's one more reason for you to not use NetBSD.  Probably
means you won't run Solaris or Digital UNIX, either.  Or IRIX, for that

But wow!  Think of all the great Ultrix hosts you'll be using!

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