Re: MI overrides of bus_dma(9), bus_space(9), pci(9)

[Matthias Drochner <M.Drochner%fz-juelich.de@localhost>]

[pci bus space alloc]
dyoung%pobox.com@localhost said:
> > The new methods should be part of the pci(9) API. That kind of
> > bus space management is inherently bus specific.
> Do you think that bus_space_alloc(9) should go away, then?

It shouldn't go away, it it needed where the MI pci hierarchy meets
MD semantics, at the host bridge.

For me, bus_space_* and the bus_addr_t types refer to a platforms
native "main bus" which is basically what comes out of the MMU.
MI buses should use fixed width types to describe their interfaces.

> And what about bus_space_map(9)?

Here is the question whether we want to support PCI where it is not
a "native" bus and mapped by a MD host bridge. I don't see any
hardware support which could do this in NetBSD currently, but
there are some ways to connect a PCI bus hierarchy to an MI bus:
-Some PCI-VME bridges can be used the other way - controlling a PCI
 bus from VME. Haven't tried that.
-remote PCI bus mastering through 1394/firewire
-InfiniBand
In these cases, the PCI bus isn't just mapped 1:1 to the mainbus,
but through a bridge which does some translation.
So one can also connect a bus with a larger address width to
a 32-bit system with 32-bit bus_addr_t.

> Certainly I could introduce pci_space_alloc(9) with a similar signature
> as bus_space_alloc().

There is no guarantee anyway that eg. the PCI I/O space corresponds
to an I/O space known to bus_space_alloc()...
I've tried to get that abstraction clean for VME bus support a while
ago. Have a look at dev/vme/vmevar.h.

best regards
Matthias



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