Subject: Re: LKMs (was Re: IPSEC in GENERIC)
To: Garrett D'Amore <garrett_damore@tadpole.com>
From: Andrew Reilly <andrew-netbsd@areilly.bpc-users.org>
List: tech-kern
Date: 02/22/2006 17:15:14
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 10:33:01AM -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 12:34:22PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> >
> >> You're right that it needs to be possible to build static kernels. I'd
> >> love a framework where the identical .o could be used either way.
> >>
> >
> > As someone who used to rely pretty heavily on static Linux kernels to
> > preserve his sanity while debugging, I'd like to say that if we're going
> > to do it the Linux way, I *really* would not love such a framework.
> >
> > Linux implements symbol versioning on all symbols in a kernel with loadable
> > module support by mangling their names in a way that makes it _extremely_
> > difficult to see what's going on with the debugger, or with normal tools
> > for looking at object files. It would be nice to not make that mistake,
> > which can also make it very difficult to see why the kernel fails to link
> > at build time, if it does.
> >
> >
> I propose we *not* do it the Linux way. Linux binary modules are
> brain-dead. Solaris is a *vastly* superior example to follow.
How do these compare to FreeBSD's dynamic loader? And how useful
would that be as a place to start?
--
Andrew