> I damn near fixed this in my own source tree but I've been too lazy to
   > maintain the changes (and I'm also still not exactly sure how/why it
   > went away and whether or not it can be restored without actually moving
   > p_start from struct pstats).
   
   It went away when ps was changed to use sysctl() calls to fetch all
   the data.  
   
   That said, I have heard lots of people who mentioned that they miss the
   start time being displayed by ps.  The stats part of the U is either 224
   bytes on a 32bit arch or 448 bytes on a 64bit arch - I think that's too
   big to add to struct proc, but adding just the start time is something
   I'd be for...


the thing is that on a machine that _hasn't paged out anything_
i lose the start times as well.  where the hell are they if
they're not paged out such that ps(1) still can't find them?