In message <200210202336.g9KNagG12237@grok.beer.org>
	on Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:36:42 -0600,
	Herb Peyerl <hpeyerl@beer.org> wrote:
>  > User shutdown a machine from some Web based management system from
>  > another room, but there is no space to put another peripheral.
>  > (And this user isn't a specialist for administration.)
> 
> then user shouldn't be allowed to shutdown the machine.
In this case, "user" is really an administrator and his/her required
role is power on/off a machine when needed and limited work thorough
Web based interface.

> Frankly, if you don't have console's on your servers, then they can't
> be all that important and then it just doesn't matter when you turn
> them off.
Those none "limited work" are taken by other expert staff.  There is a
stitutation in real world.

> If you want to build a hacked up network, then that's up to you. But
> then you can hack up your kernel with whatever code you want too. But
> don't make everyone else have to have that code there just because
> you like to run a sloppy network.
Yes, I thought "beep on shutdown" was simply hack.  But if it is
required by several people, I want to share those idea.

-- 
Takahiro Kambe <taca@back-street.net>