Subject: Re: FFS reliability problems
To: None <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
From: Gary Thorpe <gat7634@hotmail.com>
List: tech-kern
Date: 06/07/2002 12:50:57
>From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
>To: tech-kern@netbsd.org (NetBSD Kernel Technical Discussion List)
>Subject: Re: FFS reliability problems
>Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 21:37:16 +0700
> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:46:03 -0400 (EDT)
> From: woods@weird.com (Greg A. Woods)
> Message-ID: <20020606164603.087EAAC@proven.weird.com>
>
> | I agree with you, but I'm not so sure I agree with Thor.
>
>I do.
>
> | While
> | obviously a file with no directory references is probably intended
>only
> | for temporary data, I'm not sure fsck should make such an assumption,
>
>Of course it can, because that's what the application is telling it.
>If an application unlinks its temp file, the application (the app's
>author) is indicating "this temp file is trash, there's no use at all
>recovering it if the application crashes or the system does").
>
>If the application is unlinking temporary files which could be usefully
>recovered, then the application is broken, and that's where the fix
>should be applied, making fsck do dumb things to compensate is just
>plain wrong.
>
>kre
>
>ps: the other argument made for this "I just removed a valuable file that I
>know is open in this application, but which has no way to save the file, so
>I'm going to push RESET and then fsck will make the file come back" is just
>so ludicrous as to not be worthy of any comment at all.
>
Just one question I think is important to the discussion: what about
security? If it is possible to recover unlinked files, is there anyway to
guarantee that this information is NOT recoverable if the user wishes?
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