Subject: Re: Patch to add console scrollback support.
To: Lord Isildur <>
From: Mike Cheponis <mac@Wireless.Com>
List: tech-kern
Date: 06/01/2001 10:28:01
I find "natural" scrollback very helpful on other OSs.  I use screen all the
time, yet saying that scrollback should not be in because we have screen is
like saying we don't need jove in the ports because we have emacs.


p.s. OTOH, It would be nice if some different key sequence than { Ctrl + Alt
+ Shift + Meta + Cokebottle }  PgUp|PgDown -- like maybe just PgUp and PgDown
-- were used.

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Lord Isildur wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 wrote:
> > This is just scrollback. Screen is much much more than that.
> but it also does a good job at scrollback.

> > Using that logic the whole multi-VT concept should go away since screen
> > essentially provides that as well.

> i dont disagree with this line of thinking.. i tend to be trigger happy in
> slaying feeping creatures wherever i see them... :)

> > Scrollback is useful for any number of things (especially boot messages which
> > aren't syslog'd). Being able to only look back at them once before I may
> > swap VT's (say to start X) makes this not as useful as it could be.

> but boot messages have a very specific buffer they live in for this very
> purpose, because you cant run something like screen for that. that buffer
> also is good for other reasons, i doubt that was the primary motivation..
> but general scrollback once youre in userland, using something like screen
> for that i think, is the better solution that sticking it in the kernel.
> just because linux does it doesnt mean we must!