Subject: Re: Support for ACLs
To: Sean Witham <sean.witham@asa.co.uk>
From: Lord Isildur <mrfusion@umbar.vaxpower.org>
List: tech-kern
Date: 03/08/2001 10:28:33
this is because you dont need to go mucking around with the filesystem to 
achieve this. the 'non supportive' people were right. 
besides, this sort of thing has no place in the generic filesystem code, 
nor in the FFS. Certain filesystems support acls, for example AFS, and
those can coexist just fine with NetBSD. Leave such specificity in a 
special filesystem implementation like AFS support, not in the generic fs 
code or in the FFS. 
This sort of thing is what groups were invented for close to 30 years 
ago. 
Isildur


On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Sean Witham wrote:
> Is anyone else interested in support for ACLs on NetBSD ? Some time
> ago (4 years ?) I suggested that people should look at a new file system
> version with the other BSD communities that would support extended
> meta data. At the time I talked about its use for typing file data for
> mime like support as well as ACL support. The response I go twas shall
> we say non-supportive with many people saying that /etc/magic with the
> file command plus the current standard unix permission bits were all
> that was needed.
> 
> Anyway I'm bring the topic up again because Samba is now making use
> of this very feature in commercial OS/s and soon Linux. I will no doubt
> have to move at least one of my NetBSD servers to Linux soon as its
> primary task is to support a community of Windows NT users but I'd
> prefer to stick with NetBSD I find it more reliable then Linux.
> 
> What are other peoples feelings on the topic now. Do others feel it is
> now a good time to consider supporting ACLs and other extended meta
> data issues ? Maybe the code from freeBSD can be ported ?
> 
> See http://us4.samba.org/samba/development.html
> 
> Also I have some references to what others OSs are up to :
> 
> > Take a look at this :
> >
> > POSIX 1e draft links:
> > http://www.guug.de/~winni/posix.1e/download.html
> >
> >
> > What FreeBSD is doing:
> > http://www.watson.org/fbsd-hardening/posix1e/
> >
> > also look at
> >
> > http://www.trustedbsd.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > What Linux is doing:
> > http://acl.bestbits.at/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Well thanks for reading things far down, 
> 
>  --Sean
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