Subject: Re: enabling rnd(4) by default
To: None <>
From: Todd Vierling <>
List: tech-kern
Date: 02/14/2001 22:30:44
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 wrote:

: >It should be fine remaining in kernel config files.
: >We should make *more* kernel trimming options available, not less.
: 	well that depends... rnd(4) is mandatory for using ssh/sshd,
: 	which are 99% mandatory for every machines around here.

For *your* machines.  That doesn't mean I'll even need ssh on a stripped
down packet forwarding box that has no remote logins at all.  It works as an
option, so there's no reason not to keep it an option.

Whether or not NetBSD-supplied software uses it, there's a whole lot of
third party software that uses SYSV{SHM,SEM,MSG}, and they're "small"
features, yet we still provide the ability to compile them out as options.
It's a very similar concept.

: 	maybe the part of the problem is that we cannot remove devices/options
: 	in kernel configuration file.

The problem is that we don't have *enough* options yet.  There are chunks of
the kernel that I'd be very happy to strip out of my systems, yet they are
unconditionally added; in embedded systems, this becomes even more of a

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