Subject: Re: CVS commit: syssrc
To: Ben Harris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Chris G. Demetriou <email@example.com>
Date: 10/16/2000 09:07:59
firstname.lastname@example.org (Ben Harris) writes:
> On 15 Oct 2000, Chris G. Demetriou wrote:
> > I disagree with the notion of a directory for every single chip of the
> > PC super-io variety, or even this one unless there's some overriding
> > reason -- i'm coming into this thread late, and this was the first
> > message I saw about it.
> > If it's a PC super-io chip, what's wrong with just attaching an 'ISA'
> > to it?
> Its a possibility, though there are a few things I don't like about the
> - At the moment, the upc driver reads the chip's configuration registers,
> and uses the results to locate the child devices. Is this sensibly
> possible with an isa attachment? If not, we have to fall back to
> probing for each device, which is grotty.
hence my comment about doing a direct-config variant of ISA, which is
what you want if you don't want each device to probe.
> - The UPC has the ability to power sections of the chip up and down,
> which should be used to eg turn off the serial ports when they're not
> in use. While there's no code to handle this at present, I can imagine
> that it would get even harder to add with an isa interface in the way.
yeah, so, throw some hooks into the chipset structure and off you go.
> - Devices attached at isa are expected to call bus_space_map themselves,
> which means the relevant bus_space_tag_t has to contain enough
> information to locate the UPC in the system's I/O space. This is
> probably only a problem if you use a very simple bus_space
> implementation, though.
I don't think i understand the issue you're facing. do you have a
non-flat I/O space, or what?
if it's effectively flat, you could go the route where the I/O
addresses are large numbers, rather than small numbers. 8-)
> > that's what some ports do, unless i'm mistaken.
> Which ones? I'd like to see how it works in practice.
actually, i may be mistaken in that regard, and don't have time to
look very carefully right now.
the alpha jensen i/o invents its own pseudo-bus and attaches
direct-config stuff on its super-io there. (not sure that i agree
that that's the Right Way, but whatever; i didn't write that code.)
shark gets its from ofw nodes / ofisa.
i dunno about others off-hand -- and had to check to see how the
jensen did it.
ofisa is kind-of something similar, but the method of configuration
would be different. (instead of walking tree, chip provides a table
of hardware that's there.)