Subject: Re: let's get small
To: David Young <>
From: Steven M. Bellovin <>
List: tech-embed
Date: 02/26/2007 17:47:01
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:03:00 -0600
David Young <> wrote:

> Do you have any ideas what can be done to these huge programs in the
> base system to make them small yet reasonably effective on an
> IPv4/IPv6 router/bridge?
>         * wpa_supplicant
>         * hostapd
>         * dig / host
>         * dhclient
>         * dhcpd
>         * netstat
>         * pfctl
>         * tcpdump
Which should be in pkgsrc instead?  (I'd ask "which should be in an
optional syspkg instead, but that would open a different thread...)
My candidates would include hostapd, dhcpd, and tcpdump.  I might
include dig, but I think it's part of bind and hence harder to move.
OTOH, maybe we shouldn't have any of bind in the base system.  Besides,
it's such a generally useful debuggin tool.

My rationale for these choices: they're specialized applications needed
by only a few hosts.

I'm surprised there's no simpler dhclient in pkgsrc.

		--Steve Bellovin,