Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/sys/arch
To: None <source-changes@NetBSD.org>
From: Elad Efrat <elad@NetBSD.org>
List: source-changes
Date: 01/20/2008 19:01:31
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 11:47:32AM -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
>>> I'm not saying it wouldn't be useful to have, but it probably needs a
>>> rethink.  I suspect most people use ddb over a serial port for
>>> debugging.
>> There is no serial port on the majority of new x86 machines. There has
>> been a lot of trouble in debugging ACPI support because most laptops
>> have (effectively) no remote debugging facility at all.
> 
> Please don't use ACPI as justification when it mostly doesn't apply.
> The problems for ACPI debugging were not lack of serial console. A
> serial console doesn't help you that much right after resume as it is
> dead as well.
> 
> Many laptops actually have a far superior interface for debugging:
> firewire. The support for that is at least seriously underdocumented.
> Not sure if the gdb/kgdb support exists at all.

Interesting. In light of the above, Chris's notes, and my own experience
that the ipkdb code didn't even compile for at least a year or so -- how
desired is it to get this whole thing working? is it even a realistic
goal...?

-e.