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Re: need a bit of early boot help



Den 2025-11-28 kl. 01:49, skrev Dave McGuire:
On 11/27/25 12:05, Anders Magnusson wrote:
   Summary: IT RUNS!

    The problem was in the CIB board, a failed 74S74 flip flop in interrupt handling.

   We'll post pics and such soon.

   Thanks everyone for the guidance.  We'll try booting VMS on it later tonight, temporarily from the VAX-11/750's system disk.  If all goes well there, we'll set up permanent system disks for it for VMS, NetBSD, and possibly Ultrix-32.

   Incidentally, this is the same '780 that Gunther Schadow had quite a saga with on this very mailing list, back in 2002.  To my knowledge he never did get it running.  We fixed a number of hardware problems in this machine, so it's no wonder he'd had such a tough time with it.  It was many months of work, off and on, over several years for us here at LSSM.
Cool! Real hardware fix!

How did you manage to find the failing chip?  I.e. the error isolation process? :-)

  Well, the big break was information on this list, that the first character of the line where it stalled was the first thing printed with interrupts.  That quickly led us to the console TX interrupt flip flop on the CIB board.  Three of us looked at the schematics that night, separately at home, and all reached the same conclusion.

  Booting VMS on the machine told us nothing, but the NetBSD kernel is far more verbose.

  The microdiagnostics specifically flagged the M8230 (CEH) as being bad, but it was the CIB.  Now the M8230 tests pass too.
Good work!

...if it had been 45 years ago you could have bug-reported the diagnostics to DEC for pointing out the wrong hardware :-)

-- R


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