Subject: Re: Don't buy a vax, but the vax (was Re: RIP, VAX)
To: J.S. Havard <enigma@sevensages.org>
From: Lord Isildur <mrfusion@crue.jdwarren.com>
List: port-vax
Date: 08/27/1999 10:13:28
I'll register nuvax.com , and i can host it on guild.net, a machine i 
control. i'll be out of town and then out of the country til 14 sep, so if
i dont get the domain registration in in the next day or 2, ill do it 
when i get back home. 

I'll put up some trivial content for now, unless you want to put 
something in particular up.. in that case, youd be better off hosting 
it.. 

isildur

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, J.S. Havard wrote:

> 
> I think that is a better name for this thread.  :-)
> 
> Well, if somebody wants to register nuvax.com, I'll be glad to host the
> site.  I've got a few gigs of space that has nothing on it.  I also burned
> a CD last night of my source code archives (just in case some idiot
> decides to close their source), so I can clear up about another gig.
> 
> Regards,
> John Havard
> Head Geek
> The Seven Sages Project
> 
> 
> On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Lord Isildur wrote:
> 
> > I advocate TURBOchannel on technical superiority and simplicity of 
> > implementation. The only reason PCI interfaces are cheap is because 
> > a: people dont always use the full bus , and b: there is a ridiculous 
> > economy of scale going on. 
> > TC is simple intrinsically and cheaper to implement. a 100 MHz TC would 
> > blow PCI out of the water. 
> > As for your soundblaster and so on, i advocate general purpose 
> > interfaces: SCSI, 1394,generic analog, generic hi and lo speed async and 
> > sync serial, ethernet, and self-contained graphics head which is NOT
> > a console (thenyou can stuff 5 of them in the same box, as in a Real 
> > Computer). Alwasy serial console, no way around it, thats just the way i 
> > think it should be. Also, all mass storage interfaces i think should 
> > emulate MSCP, like an Emulex or a CMD scsi adapter does. MSCP is such an 
> > elegant and powerful abstraction, it shouldnt be left to bite the dust. 
> > (also, since it is really a special case of CI, those high speed generic 
> > serial interfaces coudl really be treated as CI adapters... getting 
> > ambitioous here)  I'd like to really implement the VAX as manywould have 
> > dreamed it to be. Sort of like a 6000 series, but smaller, simpler, 
> > cheaper to make. modern VLSI makes that possible. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > > > Hmm, register nuvax.com and start spreading the word? ;-)
> > > 	
> > > 	Perhaps the FreeVMS people would be interested too?
> > > 
> > > 	RE: the custom ASIC/CPU idea. That would take _real_ effort and
> > >    money up front. It might be easier to use a different approach to start
> > >    - perhaps emulation (and if the rumours about the transmeta chip are
> > >    true, then microcode is how the ia32 instructions will be handled too),
> > >    or via a FPGA. Turbo channel is nice, I grant you. But picture using a
> > >    Soundblaster 64 AWE/ DVD player on your home nuVAX ... Perhaps the
> > >    first generation could fit into those Alpha/K7 motherboards too.
> > > 
> > >    There is nothing to stop you having asic's to handle custom buses/re
> > >    implementations of old favourites. You'd need to design your own
> > >    motherboard eventually anyway. I saw an ATX StrongARM motherboard from
> > >    some company recently. Looked ideal for this sort of stuff.
> > > 
> > > 	Face it, Intel assembly is just plain nasty,  We need to revive
> > >    the VAX. 
> > > 	
> > > 		Cheers,
> > > 			a.
> > > 			
> > > p.s. I'm looking for a Keyboard/Mouse cable to fit a DECstation 5000/240
> > >     (one of those DB15 -> {rj11/ps2} combinations - same as DEC3000 series
> > >      alpha stations.) If you have one in the UK, for a reasonable price - 
> > >      Say a tenner + P&P, I'm interested. Otherwise I have to build one. 
> > > -- 
> > > atp@nojunk-mssl.ucl.ac.uk             |        Dr. Andy Phillips
> > > phillips@nojnk-isass1.solar.isas.ac.jp| Mullard Space Science Laboratory
> > > a.phillips@nojunk-ucl.ac.uk           | "It's the late 1990s, This is a spam   
> > > atp@nojunk-coralcay.demon.co.uk       | protected .sig. You know what to do"
> > > 
> > 
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