Subject: Re: Newbie question
To: None <"zaft@ece.arizona.edu"@vbormc.vbo.dec.com>
From: Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate! 30-Oct-1997 0734 +0000 <carlini@marvin.enet.dec.com>
List: port-vax
Date: 10/30/1997 09:46:02
> GZ wrote:
>Allison wrote:
>>
>> Below are al chip based cpus and with the exception of the 6000 all small
>> in size. (only a sample).
>>
>> Microvax-II    .9
>> VS2000         .9
>> 3100m38        3.8
>> 3100m30        5.0
>> 3100m76        7.6
>> 3100m90        24
>> 6000/410       38
>
>        I believe the VS3100/30 is 2.4 VUP, not 5.

Well if 3100m30 meant MicroVAX 3100 Model 30 then 5 is spot on.

The VAXstation 3100 Model 30 was about 3 VUPs (and the Model 38 was 3.8 VUPs
and the Model 76 was 7.6 VUPS, nice and easy to remember!).

The VAX 6000 series went something like:
	VAX 6000-210: 2.8 VUPs
	VAX 6000-310: 3.8 VUPs
	VAX 6000-410: 7   VUPs
	VAX 6000-510: 13  VUPs
	VAX 6000-610: 32  VUPs

And while I was leafing through my list, the older ones were:
	VAX-11/730: 0.3 VUPs (VAX-11/725 is same CPU with different packaging)
	VAX-11/750: 0.6 VUPs
	VAX-11/780: 1.0 VUPs
	VAX-11/785: 1.7 VUPs
	VAX-11/782: 1.8 VUPs (with a following wind?)
	MicroVAX I: 0.35 VUPs

So the VAX-11/730 has it by a whisker!

BTW: The VAX-11/730 was *entirely* softcoded. One of the DTJ articles
describes the hoops they jumped through to verify the inst. emulation code they
needed for the uVAX II to work. They started before the uVAX hardware was
available (and influenced the design) by using a VAX-11/730 with re-written
microcode to emulate a MicroVAX II.

The VAX-11/750 would definitely boot without a TU58 (mind you, it is over five
years since I last saw one and longer still since I last managed one, so
perhaps I am misremembering?).

Antonio

Antonio Carlini                            Mail: carlini@marvin.enet.dec.com
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