hum... 'not sure to want to switch to SCSI based hard drive...
 what will I do with my 3xIDE drives (>13Go) ? :)

 SMP won't make the choice, because I would put Open|NetBSD on it...
 and I saw SMP was far from being usable, am I wrong ?

 I'll have a look at U1 &U2 anyway !
 Would there be a way to plug my IDE disk in it ? I mean via PCI/IDE
card or IDE/SCSI cable ?

Cheers,
	Jo

On the last episode, Matt Prazak <prazak@scra.org> said to ptiJo
<ptiJo@noos.fr>:

> 
> In this case, you may want to consider an Ultra 1 or Ultra 2
> workstation.  The Ultra 1 will be cheaper than the Ultra 5, but its
> SCSI disk bus is a bit more flexible and helps offset the slower CPU.
> The Ultra 2 will end up more expensive than the Ultra 5, but it
> supports 2-way SMP and has SCSI disks.  Also, the Ultra 1 and 2 have
> SBus instead of PCI, which will guide what peripherals you can
> purchase.
> 
> There are also the older 32-bit workstations, such as the SPARCstation
> 10 and SPARCstation 20.  The SS10 and SS20 each can support up to four
> CPUs and have SCSI disks, but it is harder to get 24-bit framebuffers
> for these systems for a reasonable price.  Also, cost-effective
> SPARCstation CPUs max out at 75 or 100 MHz. Faster ones can be too
> expensive, and the double-CPU modules to get four CPUs are harder to
> find. 
> 
> All of these workstations are supported in Solaris 8.  
> The free systems, such as NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Linux, support the
> 32-bit workstations better, and 64-bit support is generally less
> mature.
> 
> For better details on the hardware http://sunsolve.sun.com/ and
> http://docs.sun.com/ are helpful.
> 
> Matt
> 
> ptiJo writes:
>  > 
>  >  well... in fact price is "what is important" :)
>  >  I just want to trash my home gateway (Intel MMX-200) to some nice
>  >  SUN
>  > workstation.
>  >  Just for the fun of playing with some new architecture.
>  > 
>  >  It will just do things like PF (FW&NAT), NFSd, DHCPd, HTTPd, FTPd
>  >  ...
>  > 
>  >  that's why I pointed out Ultra5 - to have better perf than my
>  >  current
>  > Intel but I don't want to spend too much money in it ;(
>  > 
>  >  so... according to the above description, should I still keep an
>  >  eye on
>  > U5 or to something else (low price is the most important thing ;) ?
>  > 
>  > thX for answers guys,
>  > 	Jo
>  > 
>  > PS: Matt, I'm having a look at the site... looks nice, thX !
>  > 
>  > On the last episode, Matt Prazak <prazak@scra.org> said to
>  > port-sparc64@netbsd.org:
>  > 
>  > > Lubomir Sedlacik writes:
>  > >  > hi,
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 08:00:36PM +0200, ptiJo wrote:
>  > >  > >	I'm planning to get an Ultra5 (or a bit more, depending
>  > >  > >	on the price ;)
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >	SUN doesn't seem to sell them anymore ...
>  > >  > >	Is there any company that would sell them (in Europe) ?
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > if you'd like to have new low-end workstation (from the same
>  > >  > category as Ultra 5) why not Blade 100?  it's successor of
>  > >  > Ultra 5, has much faster CPU, uses standard PC133 dimms with
>  > >  > EC, etc.  and yes, Sun currently sells them and it's notably
>  > >  > cheaper than Ultra 5 was :).
>  > >  >
>  > > 
>  > > The CPU in the Blade 100 is relatively weak, and it is probably
>  > > comparable to the higher-end Ultra 5s.  The main advantages to
>  > > the Blade 100 are USB, 2GB maximum RAM, newer framebuffer
>  > > options, and a smartcard reader.  Otherwise the Ultra 5 and Blade
>  > > 100 are comparable with IDE disks and the typical desktop
>  > > enclosure.  Used Ultra 5s are now less expensive than a new Blade
>  > > 100, so budget and OS requirements would be the driving forces.
>  > > 
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > the only reason to buy Ultra 5 for me would be if i want to
>  > >  > run Solaris older than 8 for some reason.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  >  http://www.sun.fr/produits-solutions/materiels/stations/sunblade_100.html
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > hope this helps.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > regards,
>  > >  > 
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