On 18.06.06, 21:22:17, Paul (NCC/CS) wrote:
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> thanks.
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> well shell theory is not going that well.
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> tried to build with limits increased for tcsh or using sh,
> but no different. still can't build lisp.
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> clisp fails minitests and dies.
> ecl ( not in pkgsrc)  has core dump in ecl_min binary.
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> but it seems to be always in the same place.
> I thought ram faults would be random.
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> anyway i am now doing builds with 1 ram stick at a time.
> try to find a culprit.
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> the  first SIMM alone still has the crashes.
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> perhaps that means when i try the next one it will build?
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> if it doesn't what are the chances that both  SIMM's have faults?

There is a slight chance that there is a problem with the CPU Cache;
a weak bit that only flips occasionally. Over time I've had three
MBus modules die (all of them SM71 of various revisions). One of
them only very rarely gave me trouble, that I couldn't get rid of
by changing memory modules. After exchanging the CPU module all
was well. I didin't follow the discussion so I don't know what type
of machine you're using, or if it has swappable CPUs.

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> Martin Husemann wrote:
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> > On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 01:53:10PM +1000, Paul (NCC/CS) wrote:
> > > perhaps i've answered my own question, but i'd
> > > still be grateful to here opinions on the use of tcsh
> > > as a root shell for building pkgsrc?
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> > The default user rlimits are not depending on the shell you use (some are
> > set depending on your available memory).
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> > I use tcsh as root shell (on various archs), and have not seen any problems.
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> > I think I remember some pkgs explicitly testing for low limits and asking
> > to rise them before starting the build, maybe some pkgs do miss this (or
> > the needed resources have grown with some update)
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> > Martin
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