On Sep 28, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Bernd Sieker wrote:
> On 28.09.04, 13:01:17, Greg Earle wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Bernd Sieker wrote:
>>>
>>> So, for ssh logins, 180MHz HyperSPARC is slower than 75MHz
>>> SuperSPARC-II? Hard to believe, but I really can login in <12
>>> seconds.
>>
>> I said "roughly" - that's the result of a "/usr/bin/time slogin ... "
>
> "roughly" combined with 4 significant digits sounds a bit odd ...

It's "/usr/bin/time", so you get 4 significant digits.  The
"roughly" should have been evident from my testing heuristics.

>> and, once I get logged in, wait for the shell, then type "exit"
>> to get back to the originating host.  Maybe you're measuring
>> how long it takes to get the SSH login prompt, or to get the
>> shell prompt ... I'm measuring end-to-end.
>
> What I do is "time ssh <remote-host> true", so I don't wait for

Since when does "ssh <remote-host> true" test a *login*?

> the remote shell prompt to come up, but just to execute one (small,
> output-less) remote program, and exit immediately.  I also use
> publickey authentication so don't have to enter a password.  Should
> be a second or two shorter than your method, which would make the
> 180MHz Hyper and the 75MHz Super-II almost on par.  Which I still
> find a bit disappointing for the Ross.  It may be significantly
> faster on many other tasks, of course.

If you want to play that game, I can do that:

% /usr/bin/time ssh -n isolar.dyndns.org true
         6.56 real         0.17 user         0.02 sys
% /usr/bin/time ssh -n isolar.dyndns.org true
         6.49 real         0.17 user         0.01 sys
% /usr/bin/time ssh -n isolar.dyndns.org true
         6.54 real         0.18 user         0.03 sys
% /usr/bin/time ssh -n isolar.dyndns.org true
         6.56 real         0.13 user         0.05 sys

I think 6 1/2 is quite a bit faster than your 12.

(I used to have a 75 MHz SuperSPARC II in it.  Trust me, the
  Ross is *way* faster - of course, "faster" being relative
  when we're talking about a 9-year-old machine that's as slow
  as a dog compared to any half-decent PC or Mac.)

	- Greg

P.S. I know running NetBSD makes one automatically some sort
      of BDSM fetishist, but I just have to laugh reading all
      these "I've got an SS2" or "I've got an IPX" postings,
      given that bare-bones SS20's (with CPU and 64 MB RAM)
      are going for US $19.00 "Buy It Now" prices on eBay ...
      c'mon, splurge a little folks ;)