At 6:34 PM +0200 2002/04/16, Manuel Bouyer wrote:

>>  cvs login: authorization failed: server anoncvs.netbsd.org rejected
>>  access to /cvsroot for user anoncvs
>>  cvs login: authorization failed: server anoncvs.netbsd.org rejected access
>
>  Maybe there is too much concurent users ...

	Could be.

>>  	Is there an alternate CVS server that I could try, perhaps one a
>>  bit closer to home (I live in Belgium, with good connectivity to the
>>  Netherlands, Germany, UK, etc...).
>
>  See http://www2.fr.netbsd.org/mirrors/#anoncvs

	D'oh!  How could I have missed that page?!?  ;-(


	I know that the more experienced NetBSD folks here may find this 
a little tedious, but for the benefit of less experienced folks, 
let's look at these routes & RTTs:

	Austria

		Belbone -> Amsterdam -> KPNQwest -> Frankfurt
			-> Munich -> Vienna (18 hops total)

		% ping -c 30 sunsite.univie.ac.at | tail -3
		----sunsite.csd.smc.univie.ac.at PING Statistics----
		30 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
		round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 56.225/60.436/124.720/12.447 ms

	France

		Belbone -> Level3 -> Paris -> SFINX -> Renater (5 hops)
			-> Jussieu (4 hops) -> antioche.lip6.fr (19 hops total)

		% ping -c 30 anoncvs.fr.netbsd.org | tail -3
		----antioche.antioche.eu.org PING Statistics----
		30 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
		round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 57.842/61.168/73.673/3.520 ms

	Germany

		Belbone -> Level3 (4 hops) -> DFN (4 hops)
			-> LRZ-Muenchen (3 hops) -> anoncvs.leo.org (18 hops total)

		% ping -c 30 anoncvs.de.netbsd.org | tail -3
		----anoncvs.leo.org PING Statistics----
		30 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
		round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 42.430/50.619/76.633/5.124 ms


	Hmm.  When I was working at Skynet (whom I continue to use as my 
ISP), I know we had major news peerings with University of Vienna, 
and smaller peerings with various sites in Germany and France, but 
our connectivity seemed best with sites in the Netherlands, parts of 
Germany, and Austria, with SFINX being a fairly significant 
bottleneck into France.

	From looking at these numbers, obviously 22-25ms of latency is 
due to my ISDN line, but beyond that I don't see particularly 
significant differences (on average) between my systems and these 
three networks.  Yes, the German site is an average of about 10ms 
quicker, but that's about it.  However, at the moment, there would 
appear to be some fairly significant network issues with Austria 
(look at the maximum RTT and the standard deviation).

	Since the German site is ~10ms faster than the other two and the 
standard deviation is less than 2ms larger than that of the French 
site, I think I'll try it first.  Nevertheless, I'll keep this list 
of three nearby ANONCVS sites, and in the future I'll know which ones 
are more local and therefore should be tried first.


	Sigh....  Unfortunately, I appear to be having login problems 
with the German site:

		% cvs login
		(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.de.netbsd.org)
		CVS password:
		cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server anoncvs.de.netbsd.org: EOF
		% cvs login
		(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.de.netbsd.org)
		CVS password:
		cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server anoncvs.de.netbsd.org: EOF

	So, now I'm trying the French site.  I'll let you folks know if I 
have any other problems.


	Thanks again!

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.