Subject: Re: 1.5-Beta sparc64 snapshot available
To: None <eeh@netbsd.org>
From: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.DynDNS.ORG>
List: port-sparc
Date: 10/27/2000 17:06:15
> 	  According to the release notes (INSTALL.txt:453-455), this snapshot
> 	does not support the serial port, keyboard, or mouse of PCI based
> 	systems.  If this is correct?  Is this port still unusable on Ultra
> 	5/10/etc class PCI workstations?
> 
> None of those devices are supported in 1.5.  1.5 uses the PROM 
> console on PCI machines.  The keyboard/mouse on a 16550 is supported
> in -current but that code is not very stable right now and won't
> be in 1.5.

Pardon mon stupidity, but ...

How do you use an Ultra 5+ or Ultra 10 if there is no keyboard, mouse or
serial port support?  If it's headless you need the serial port support to
run a serial console, oui?  If it's not headless, you need keyboard and
mouse support to use the monitor and X11, oui?

What am I missing here?

(I suspect it's in the "1.5 uses the PROM console on PCI machines" comment,
 but I don't know exactly what that entails.)

I'm curious because at work I use NetBSD/SPARC on a Sun SPARCstation 20/71,
and there's pressure on me to replenish the machine with an Ultra 5+ (an
umbrella organization is giving us money to replenish systems with, and
just about everyone else in my organization has an Ultra 5+ on their desktop).
So I'm keen to know when the Ultra 5+/10 will be as reasonably well supported
as the SS20's - at least, in a headless mode (I run my 20 headless nowadays).

Thanks,

	- Greg