[ On Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 16:39:55 (+0200), Manuel Bouyer wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: Time to get off the fence.....
>
> No, it's a sparc 2. But I've got an IPC at home with X configured, and I've
> never seen this problem. I has never got an uptime of more than a few hours - 
> too much noise, I can't sleep when it's running :)

I had an IPC running NetBSD 1.0? (about 1995) for good long periods of
time, and IIRC the X11 server was a lot more stable on it too.

As I mentioned earlier though my diskless SS-1 has had XsunMono dump
core on me regularly about once a week or so (max uptime about 20 days),
and since upgrading its motherboard courtesy a $15 bid on eBay to be an
SS-1+ things have only got worse from a reliability perspective
(occasional panics when X crashes now, and even sometimes when it just
exits).

I had always assumed there was a bug related to a memory leak in X11,
but I've never really tried to look very hard at the core dumps....

Here's dmesg output so y'all know exactly what hardware is in it now for
comparison.  The memory isn't all Sun bar-code but so far shuffling the
SIMMs about hasn't changed the behaviour patterns any.

NetBSD 1.3.2 (VERY) #0: Sun Sep 20 16:37:21 EDT 1998
    woods@most:/usr/src-1.3.2/sys/arch/sparc/compile/VERY
real mem = 16723968
avail mem = 14495744
using 128 buffers containing 524288 bytes of memory
bootpath: /sbus0/le0
mainbus0 (root): Sun 4/65
cpu0 at mainbus0: MB86900/1A or L64801 @ 25 MHz, WTL3170/2 FPU
cpu0: 64K byte write-through, 16 bytes/line, sw flush: cache enabled
memreg0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf4000000
clock0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf2000000: mk48t02 (eeprom)
timer0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf3000000 delay constant 10
auxreg0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf7400000
zs0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf1000000 pri 12, softpri 6
zstty0 at zs0 channel 0
zstty1 at zs0 channel 1
zs1 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf0000000 pri 12, softpri 6
kbd0 at zs1 channel 0 (console)
ms0 at zs1 channel 1
fdc0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf7200000 pri 11, softpri 4: chip 82072
audioamd0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf7201000 pri 13, softpri 4
audio0 at audioamd0
sbus0 at mainbus0 ioaddr 0xf8000000: clock = 25 MHz
dma0 at sbus0 slot 0 offset 0x400000: rev 1
esp0 at sbus0 slot 0 offset 0x800000 pri 3: ESP100, 25MHz, SCSI ID 7
scsibus0 at esp0: 8 targets
st0 at scsibus0 targ 5 lun 0: <ARCHIVE, VIPER 150  21531, -003> SCSI1 1/sequential removable
st0: drive empty
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 6 lun 0: <SONY, CD-ROM CDU-8012, 3.1a> SCSI2 5/cdrom removable
le0 at sbus0 slot 0 offset 0xc00000 pri 5: address 08:00:20:08:34:2f
le0: 8 receive buffers, 2 transmit buffers
bwtwo0 at sbus0 slot 1 offset 0x0: SUNW,501-1419, 1600 x 1280 (console)
bwtwo0: attached to /dev/fb
nfs_boot: trying RARP (and RPC/bootparam)
nfs_boot: client_addr=0xcc5cfe03
nfs_boot: server_addr=0xcc5cfe02
nfs_boot: hostname=very.weird.com
root on most.weird.com:/usr/export/very
WARNING: clock gained 100 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
root file system type: nfs


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