I have no problem helping with getting accelerated support running.  I
would appreciate the sources.

Peace...  Sridhar

On Sat, 12 May 2001, Lord Isildur wrote:

> 
> hello,
> 
> i think i offered to some folks on the list before, but i have
> both Ultrix and OSF1 sources. The OSF1 sources are the complete v.20 
> source distribution, and shoudl be of help for supporting the accelerated 
> cards. I can make them available for browsing if youre interested
> 
> happy hacking,
> isildur
> 
> On Sat, 12 May 2001, Vance Dereksen wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I still want the relative speed.  Just because a PMAGD-BA doesn't boot
> > under NetBSD doesn't mean it isn't fast.  Just because a PMAGB-BA doesn't
> > accelerate under NetBSD, it doesn't mean that it can't accelerate at all.  
> > I need useful information regarding the hardware's capabilities.  Come on.
> > 
> > The 5800 is XMI/VAXBI with MIPS CPUsets.
> > 
> > Peace...  Sridhar
> > 
> > On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Tribo wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 11 May 2001, Vance Dereksen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Tribo wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Vance Dereksen wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Which is the fastest?  The PMAGB-BA, the PMAG-F, or the PMAGD-BA?  Also,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	PMAGB-BA Would be the fastest 2D card if we had accelerated
> > > > > console drivers or an accelerated Xserver for pmax, but alas we do
> > > > > not. PMAGB-BA is very slow on the console, and in X. I prefer to use a
> > > > > serial console over using a PMAGB-BA. PMAG-F blows a PMAGB-BA out of the
> > > > > water, but there is no Xserver available for it, and it takes up three TC
> > > > > slots. PMAGD-BA is the best of 2D and 3D acceleration on one card, but
> > > > > it's not supported at all yet on NetBSD/pmax AFAIK, should work fine if
> > > > > you have an Alpha 3000 series to plug it into though.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I am trying to build an array of 5900s, so the PMAG-F's slot
> > > > requirement is not a big deal for me.  However, you're saying if I want
> > > > any 3D acceleration, I have to go with the PMAGD-BA?  How does the 2D
> > > 
> > > 	There is no acceleration period on NetBSD/pmax, not 2D or 3D. The
> > > PMAGB-BA is a 2D only card with "Smart frame buffer" technology. However,
> > > NetBSD/pmax treats the PMAGB-BA as if it were a PMAG-B (dumb color frame
> > > buffer). No acceleration features have been implemented unless you're
> > > using -current with wscons enabled. Search for the thread on "wscons
> > > kernel" for more info.
> > > 
> > > > speed of the PMAGD-BA compare with the 2D speed of the PMAG-F?  If I use
> > > 
> > > 	On Netbsd/pmax the PMAG-F will beat a PMAGD-BA at anything because
> > > if you try and boot a kernel with a PMAGD you won't see anything because
> > > it isn't supported. At least the PMAG-F has console support, though it
> > > won't run X. But, If you were running Digital Unix or OSF/1 on an Alpha,
> > > the PMAGD-BA would be faster.
> > > 
> > > > > > what are the chances of the KZTSA FWD-SCSI card being supported, if I were
> > > > > > to lend one to someone (with a FWD drive, probably) to write support
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	Pretty reasonable, if the Alpha port already has a driver for
> > > > > it. If not, depends on free time.
> > > > 
> > > > Who would I contact about lending a card to someone to port the alpha
> > > > driver to pmax?  I don't have the time to write the driver myself, as I
> > > > will be doing a lot of stuff for NetBSD/s390.
> > > 
> > > 	The only name that comes to mind is Jason Thorpe, but without
> > > knowing, I'd guess that he's got his hands full debugging all the recent
> > > changes from merging Thorpej_SCSI into the source tree. You could post it
> > > on the NetBSD web page as being available for development.
> > >  
> > > > Well, the 58x0 means that x is the number of CPU's in the machine.  
> > > > Anybody have technical info on the ISIS machines?
> > > 
> > > 	I've not seen anything posted to the list or any pictures of an
> > > ISIS machine on E-Bay. I can only guess that it's some manner of Qbus /
> > > XMI VAX relative with MIPS CPUs instead of VAX. Anything you can dig up or
> > > Pictures would be sweet.
> > > 
> > > 	Chris
> > > 
> > 
> > 
>