On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:10:17AM -0500, Manuel Rabade - MiG wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 02:45:14AM -0400, der Mouse wrote:
> > > and i have seen that in some pages who sell NeXT hardware they
> > > said that sell keyboards/mouse with ADB (Apple Desktop Bus or
> > > something like that) that work with NeXT's, anyone have used a
> > > keyboard from an apple in the NeXT ??
> > ADB keyboards and mice work with _some_ NeXTs.  (I don't know
> > whether they are supported by NetBSD - I know NetBSD supports adb on
> > the mac68k port, but I don't know about next68k.)
> > 
> > But some NeXTs don't do ADB, and those require idiosyncratic
> > keyboards and mice.

On some models you run into the power switch problem which may or may
not have been discussed in this thread (as a reply to the bit below
perhaps, but I didn't see it).

> > If your NeXT needs the 19-pin box<->monitor cable, you may have
> > trouble finding a cable - I have never seen anything but NeXT
> > hardware use that connector.  I think I have some spares; if you
> > need one and can't find any locally, send me a note off-list.
> Well, i think a better and cheaper solution: use DB25 Conectors and
> broke the pins that the NeXT dont use to fit well in the connector
> behind the monitor and the case =). I tested it and it seems to fit
> well (only fits, i haven't done the cable =P).


> > > If the keyboard of the apple dont work i will try to use it
> > > without monitor and use it with a serial console cable to install
> > > NetBSD, the NeXT BIOS automaticaly opens a consle on the serial
> > > ??? or what i have to do ?.
> > Well, calling it a BIOS is misleading: it implies peecee thought
> > patterns that match up rather poorly with the reality of the NeXT
> > (and indeed most other non-peecee machines).
> Yea .. calling it BIOS is wrong, what could be the correct name for it ? ;)

"Firmware", or "rom monitor" in case you mean a command like like OBP or
such, is quite a common term. 


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