On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Pangrazio, Robert Thomas \(UMR-Student\) wrote:

> I like ssh because you can do X forwarding in one command
>
> ssh -X username@hostmachine
>
> Then you can start you X programs with out having to modify environment
> variables.

That was also one of the points I wanted to make.


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: port-macppc-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-macppc-owner@NetBSD.org]
> On Behalf Of William Duke
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 12:00 PM
> To: Peter Seebach; port-macppc@NetBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Unofficial macppc 2.1 ISO for old world machines
>
>
>
> > From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach)
> > Reply-To: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach)
> > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:47:57 -0600
> > To: port-macppc@NetBSD.org
> > Subject: Re: Unofficial macppc 2.1 ISO for old world machines
> >
> > In message <BFA771EA.4D23%wduke@cogeco.ca>, William Duke writes:
> >> What about ssl or ssh?
> >
> > ssh offers a good replacement for telnet.
> >
> >> Now, If you were running big bad important servers that the security
> of the
> >> nation were dependent on, then telnet might not be the solution for
> you.
> >> If, however, you're a newbie to unix or you're just playing with the
> darn
> >> things for something to do, as many folk are with these old 68k and
> ppc
> >> machines, security probably isn't going to be a big concern for you.
> I
> >> mean, world war three isn't going to be started by little Johnny
> >> compromising the security of little Jimmy's G3 Powermac.
> >
> > Yes, but bad security is habit-forming.
>
> I use telnet all the time.  However, my network is behind a firewall and
> comprises about four or five old ppc and 68k machines, and contain no
> data
> of any significance.  Truth be told, I don't even bother with backups on
> these machines.  Reason:  ROI.   The return on my time & energy
> investment
> is virtually nil because I have nothing on these machines that "cannot"
> be
> lost.
>
> Perhaps my situation is unique, but that's unlikely.  I will routinely
> format my drives just to install something new or different.  They're
> playthings for me.  Nothing more and nothing less.
>
>
>

-- 
gedanken /g*-dahn'kn/ adj.

 Ungrounded; impractical; not
   well-thought-out; untried; untested.

`Gedanken' is a German word for `thought'.  A thought
   experiment is one you carry out in your head.  In physics, the term
   `gedanken experiment' is used to refer to an experiment that is
   impractical to carry out, but useful to consider because it can
   be reasoned about theoretically.  (A classic gedanken experiment of
   relativity theory involves thinking about a man in an elevator
   accelerating through space.)  Gedanken experiments are very useful
   in physics, but must be used with care.  It's too easy to idealize
   away some important aspect of the real world in constructing the
   `apparatus'.

Among hackers, accordingly, the word has a pejorative connotation.
   It is typically used of a project, especially one in artificial
   intelligence research, that is written up in grand detail
   (typically as a Ph.D.  thesis) without ever being implemented to
   any great extent.  Such a project is usually perpetrated by people
   who aren't very good hackers or find programming distasteful or are
   just in a hurry.  A `gedanken thesis' is usually marked by an
   obvious lack of intuition about what is programmable and what is
   not, and about what does and does not constitute a clear
   specification of an algorithm.  See also AI-complete,
   DWIM.