I found BootVars to be invaluable. I just made a configuration and saved
it, now I can pretty well dual boot. The Different manuals for different
open firmwares may not be a bad idea. You're right in that no manual
will make this a one click install, but a better flow would help. How
hard would this be to change? How can I help?=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:macallan18@earthlink.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:12 AM
To: Pangrazio, Robert Thomas (UMR-Student)
Cc: port-macppc@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: newbie question, boot cd on beige g3

Hello,

> I know I spent about 3 hours trying to get it to boot, only to realize
> that the way I was trying to get it to boot was completely wrong.

Welcome to the world of screwed up OpenFirmware.

> I know a lot of you out there are going to say that I should have read
> the manual better. That is a fair and valid point.

I won't - if you got away with only 3 hours on your first install you
did pretty well ;)

> However, how are we ever going to increase the user base of this
> system if the documentation is hard to follow?

OF 1.0.5 is extremely b*tchy, no manual can change that. I had to fiddle
around with it for quite some time until it suddenly worked ( and did
ever since ). Yes, the manual is suboptimal, but the oddities in OF
1.0.5 alone would fill a book. Maybe there should be separate guides for
OF 1 and 2 or newer.
Installing on an iBook G4 was no problem at all, no idea if that's
because OF 3 is just less troublesome ( what it doubtlessly is ) or
because I actually knew what I'm doing ;)

> Too often we lose users to other OS's not because the alternative is
> better, but because they can install it.

Yeah, something to boot from MacOS would be a nice addition so people
wouldn't have to mess with OF to boot the install CD.

have fun
Michael