I was, or still am depending on how you look at it a newbie to
NetBSD/macppc. I have installed it on an Umax s900 successfully. What I
would like to say is maybe the install notes would be easier to follow
if instead of this format:
Task 1
	If ofw version 1
	...
	If ofw version 2
	...
	If ofw version 3
	..
Task 2
	If ofw version 1
	...
	If ofw version 2
	...
	If ofw version 3
	..

This format was user

If ofw version 1
	Task 1
	Task 2
	...
If ofw version 2
	Task 1
	Task 2
	....

If ofw version 3
	Task 1
	Task 2
	...

I know I spent about 3 hours trying to get it to boot, only to realize
that the way I was trying to get it to boot was completely wrong. I know
a lot of you out there are going to say that I should have read the
manual better. That is a fair and valid point. However, how are we ever
going to increase the user base of this system if the documentation is
hard to follow? Too often we lose users to other OS's not because the
alternative is better, but because they can install it. I have installed
several different OS's in my time, ranging from Linux to Irix, to
Windows (not so much anymore) and of course NetBSD. I found none to be
that complicated, but NetBSD's documentation to be the hardest to
follow. Maybe my suggestion is not the best, but I do believe there is
room for improvement, and this is an easy area to improve on.


-----Original Message-----
From: port-macppc-owner@NetBSD.org [mailto:port-macppc-owner@NetBSD.org]
On Behalf Of Riccardo Mottola
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:35 PM
To: gerard
Cc: Michael Lazin; port-macppc@NetBSD.org
Subject: Re: newbie question, boot cd on beige g3

YOu guys should be a little more specific with your problems ! the
documentation in the macppc section of the netbsd site for powermacs is
quite extensive and it goes into details of booting and setting
openfirmware on 1, 2 avd v3 versions of it. granted it may become tricky
but you really should try harder, check past posts here on the list and
report your real errors, your configurations., your attemps so we can
try to diagnose what is going wrong..
 Just raising hands and ssying  "it doesn't work for me" is useless.
Really. Other people have booted beige G3s...

-R

gerard wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> I'm a newbie too, and after many tray I have chose others ways...
> 1/ opendarwin (nice but not enough port for what I'm looking for
> 2/ debian (really a very nice works... i know it's no BSD, but that
> can boot...)
> 3/ ubunt : my actual chose with a booting OS9 partition... (I't
> not really my chose, but i can't be able to boot on NetBSD ;-((()
>=20
> but if some one have any idea, it's well come to really make a tray to
> NetBSD
>=20
> Gerard
>=20
> > I am attempting to install netbsd on a beige g3.  I have looked at
> > the
> > archives and have been unable to find a boot command in the open
> > firmware that boots my netbsd install cd.  Does anyone have
> > experience
> > installing on the beige g3?  My machine has a ide cd-rom and ide
> > hard
> > drive.  I am new to bsd but have some experience with linux.  Any
> > help
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Michael Lazin
> > http://lazinweb.homelinux.net
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> >