Subject: Re: Beige G3 - Unable to boot install
To: Ben Jansen <netbsd@kristamin.com>
From: Henry B. Hotz <hotz@jpl.nasa.gov>
List: port-macppc
Date: 12/11/2002 18:15:24
At 5:34 PM -0800 12/11/02, Ben Jansen wrote:
>On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 17:13 US/Pacific, Henry B. Hotz wrote:
>
>>>I had a SCSI Zip and SCSI CD-R; I disconnected both to no avail. 
>>>The only other addition is the Rage 128 card I am using.
>>
>>I don't *think* the Rage card is the issue.  What I can recall were 
>>disk issues, but I've been paying more attention to OF1 and OF3 
>>machines since that's what I have.
>>
>>Did you install the SystemDisk patches?
>
>If all I had to do was hit Save, yes, I did.

Good enough, I think.

>>   Did you try removing the SystemDisk patches?  (setenv 
>>use_nvramrc? false should be good enough for removal.  Check my 
>>spelling of the variable.)
>
>I'm not sure which variable it is.. Is there any way to make 
>printenv act like ls, as in a pager type thing? When I ls and the 
>output is longer than one screen, it says "More [<space>, <cr>, q] ?"

Some versions of OF do that.  I'm sure if you knew forth. . .

>>If you're feeling experimental, here's something to try:  format an 
>>MS-DOS floppy and put the ofwboot and netbsd files on it (with 8.2 
>>filenames).  Then try "dir fd:1,\".  It's well known that the 
>>floppy doesn't work under OF, but maybe if it's an MS-DOS floppy 
>>instead of a netbsd one. . .
>
>I'll try that.
>
>Actually, I just tried using a snapshot, 9-30-2002, on CD. I put 
>ofwboot.xcf and netbsd.GENERAL_MD.gz (name?) as netbsd.macppc on the 
>root. I burned it as hybrid:
>
>0 > dir ide0/disk@0
>.
>..
>DESKTOP_.DB
>DESKTOP_.DF
>NETBSD.MAC
>OFWBOOT.XCF

The install instructions have some detailed information about how to 
burn CD's for your specific OF version.  I'm not sure if they are as 
detailed as they need to be since some nit-pickey details about 
low-level format options could make a big difference.  Best guidance: 
if "dir" works it's *probably* OK.

I think you're failing before OF gives control to ofwboot, but just 
in case:  Did you grab the ofwboot.xcf from Markus W Kilbinger's post?
-- 
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Henry.B.Hotz@jpl.nasa.gov, or hbhotz@oxy.edu