Subject: Re: Apple Xserve support
To: None <port-macppc@netbsd.org>
From: Kevin Diggs <kevdig@rcn.com>
List: port-macppc
Date: 07/10/2002 12:19:30
Hi,

    Keep in mind that there is a low-bandwidth extension for X11 called LBX.
If supported by the Xserver it should show up in the extensions in the output
of xdpyinfo. I do not know how to use it. Nor do I know how well it works.
Might need to hack clients to use it (might already be done).

    Also to avoid confusion with MacOS X, when referring to X Window System
could we always use X11?

                    kevin

gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:39:23PM -0400, Eric J. Feldhusen wrote:
> > X11 got it's start back in the days when networks were
> >  built with hubs, not 10/100/1000 switches, and it worked
> >  well back then. It's only gotten back with time.
>
> In all fairness, I think Kamal's thinking of bandwidth below the
> standard ethernet requirements (think DSL, frame relay, or fractional
> T1). For a completely dumb (but graphical) terminal, I think he's
> got a point, but I'm not so sure that *anything* graphical performs
> well in that context.
>
> I X forward all the time (including right now, for the xterm in
> which I'm typing this) across my DSL line at home, but I doubt I'd
> want to be running the X server remotely. Imho, a local X server
> (including xdm running locally) with clients running on remote
> machines and displaying locally (ssh takes care of the DISPLAY
> setting for you and certainly the encrypted stream performs quickly
> enough for my needs, which aren't insignificant--I get *really*
> irritated by any latency) is totally sufficient.
>
> Use either NIS (across a VPN, obviously) or rsync+ssh (with a
> passphrase-less key for root, the private key existing only on the
> password master) to keep the accounts in-sync with the master on the
> terminals. (I've got some half-baked shell scripts to do the latter
> which I've been meaning to find time to clean up, convert to at
> least Perl if not C, and daemonize, if you're interested in that
> approach. cs.swarthmore.edu's been using the shell script version in
> their lab full of Solaris machines four two and a half years now
> without any real problems.)
>
> --
> gabriel rosenkoetter
> gr@eclipsed.net
>
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