On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Michael Wolfson wrote:

> At 9:02 PM -0500 1/2/02, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:
>
> :)The thing you're missing here, Todd, is that tlp works just fine
> :)with the built-in hardware in every PowerMac that has a Tulip chip,
> :)and that is *far* more common in the Macintosh world than
> :)bargain-basement PCI cards. Nobody using macppc lacks a built-in
> :)ethernet chip...
>
> Actually, my understanding was that the built-in ethernet on the 601, 603,
> and 604 systems was MACE, the Beige G3s had BMAC, then everything after
> that had GMAC.  I think some PowerBooks (like the 3400/3500) had a tulip
> chip.
>
> I don't think there are many models that had tulip on-board.  Even the
> Apple Network Server models shipped with MACE ethernet, and tulip as an
> add-on PCI card.

I think part of what happened was that the favorite add-in ethernet card
was one made by Asante, which used the family of chips the de & tlp cover.

I really don't think it matters which we support, de or tlp, but that the
installer and GENERIC match.

Take care,

Bil