At 9:02 PM -0500 1/2/02, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote:

:)The thing you're missing here, Todd, is that tlp works just fine
:)with the built-in hardware in every PowerMac that has a Tulip chip,
:)and that is *far* more common in the Macintosh world than
:)bargain-basement PCI cards. Nobody using macppc lacks a built-in
:)ethernet chip...

Actually, my understanding was that the built-in ethernet on the 601, 603,
and 604 systems was MACE, the Beige G3s had BMAC, then everything after
that had GMAC.  I think some PowerBooks (like the 3400/3500) had a tulip
chip.

I don't think there are many models that had tulip on-board.  Even the
Apple Network Server models shipped with MACE ethernet, and tulip as an
add-on PCI card.

  -- MW