On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Todd Vierling wrote:

> : This PR is ancient (port-macppc/10779).  I have only one tlp device (an
> : Asante PCI card), but of no one who knows more on this topic does nothing,
> : I *will* change netbsd-1-5 GENERIC to default to tlp with all the TLP_MATCH
> : options.
>
> Eek, you really want pain, don't you?  8-)

No no, you've got me all wrong -- I want to *remove* pain.  Right now,
there's a big inconsistency between the installer and the OS which
confuses new users as soon as they start trying to use the OS.

> It's not recommended, at least not yet, to use tlp for many of those chips.
> Many off-brand tulip cards (read: "anything you buy at a local retail shop
> for <$20 that isn't a rtk") has horrendous problems with our current
> implementation of "tlp".

That's an excellent reason for keeping de as default.  But the tlp stuff
should at least be present in GENERIC for all of the devices not supported
by de (and the TLP_MATCH should then be present but commented out).

> If anything, the INSTALL* kernels should include "de" and *not* have the
> TLP_MATCH_* options set.

OK, as long as there isn't an inconsistency between INSTALL and GENERIC.
Will you take care of this, or shall I?

Thanks for the explanation.

  -- MW