Jeff,

you just stumbled onto the same issue I had when installing 1.5.2 on a 
Performa6400.  Perhaps here's a good place to speculate that you shouldn't 
have any problems running NetBSD on the 6360, since it's very similar to the 
6400.

Now back to the unreachable nameserver/gateway thing.

Back when I used to do 1.5 and 1.5.1 ftp installs, as long as my cabling was 
done properly, I had absolutely no problem doing an ftp install.  This all 
changed in 1.5.2, sadly.  I remember spending an entire night, I kid you not, 
cursing at things when my linux box containing the installation files could 
ping my performa6400, but the installer kept complaining about being unable 
to ping the nameserver and/or the gateway.  I use the performa as a gateway, 
so I've installed two PCI NICs - one cheap NE2000, ne0, and a Tulip based 
Asante, tlp0.  On a side note,  the installer sees the tulip card as a tlp0, 
but once booted, the os reports it as a de0.  Just be aware if that interface 
doesn't work later.  Just move /etc/ifconfig.tlp0 to /etc/ifconfig.de0.

My mac was hooked to the linux-running laptop via a serial cable, 
8pin-to-25pin, a null modem, a gender changer, and a 25pn-to-9pin converter.  
This is how I controlled the computer.  Then I had the tlp0 connected to a 
hub, to which the laptop was also hooked.  Both were on the same subnet so 
things should have been as simple as abc, but they weren't.  I then hooked 
ne0 to the hub and tried the install over that interface.  Same failure.  
Then I tried setting the nameserver and the gateway to the IP of the mac 
itself, hoping that it should be able to ping itself and then get to the 
point where I can tell it where the installation media was.  That didn't help 
either.  I tried leaving the nameserver and gateway fields empty.  No luck.  
Then I backed off a few stages in the installer to the initial screen with 
the option to configure the network.  Tried doing it from there.  No help.  
Tried dropping to a shell and manually doing the ifconfig, route thing.  I 
think I screwed up the route syntax (sorry, but my roots are in linux), so 
that didn't do the trick.

After hours of extremely excruciating failures of what used to be a simple 
routine, I may have tried using a crossover cable to directly connect the two 
machines.  I don't remember anything other than cursing the blasted thing.

Eventually, the thing gave up and just worked.  It might have had something 
to do with the shaman I hired to do the "install-NetBSD" dance.  I may never 
know, for I was too relieved and anxious to finish the install before the 
thing started acting up again.

Sorry I couldn't offer you more help in what must be trying times for you, 
but when I saw your post, I felt like pouring out my own frustration.

Anyway, do try any of the things I did and I sincerely hope you hit the magic 
sequence.  Don't be discouraged, the magic is there, it's just darned tough 
to guess.

IvanK.
(chepati)

On Monday 12 November 2001 09:54 pm, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> So, since the error was that my gateway or nameserver couldn't be
> pinged, I went to my OS X box and did a ping on both.  No packet loss.
> Both were able to be pinged.
> Am I missing something here?
> Is this a FAQ that I should have read or is it some weird bug that I've
> stumbled across?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On Monday, November 12, 2001, at 08:31 PM, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> > OK.  I reinstalled OS9 on the laptop which I'm running ZTerm on now.
> > I've made the serial connection to the Performa and the OpenFirmware
> > output is not coming to the laptop from the Performa--good.
> >
> > I want to do an ftp install.
> >
> > But when I eneter the network settings, it keeps telling me that either
> > the nameserver or the gateway can't be reached by a ping.
> >
> > I am positive the network settings are correct.  I tried a secondary
> > and tertiary nameserver.  That didn't work.
> >
> > The device for the network card is tlp0 and it's a Farralon card which
> > has worked with earlier versions of NetBSD.
> >
> > Any thoughts on what might be wrong?
> >
> > Thanks for the input.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Monday, November 12, 2001, at 08:19 PM, Makoto Fujiwara wrote:
> >> From: Jeff Hergan <jeff@praeclara.com>
> >> Jeff> Is there a way to do the install from the NetBSD laptop machine
> >> onto the
> >> Jeff> Performa?
> >>
> >> There were issues.
> >> (1) How to make serial connection from NetBSD.
> >> (2) Does NetBSD run on Performa 6360 ?
> >>
> >> (1) is simple.
> >>
> >> Make sure /dev/tty0? and /usr/bin/cu permission.
> >> Mine looks as following.
> >> makoto@nazuha 11:16:08/011113(~)> ls -l /dev/tty0? /usr/bin/cu
> >> crw-------  1 root  tty     12, 0 Nov 13 11:13 /dev/tty00
> >> crw-------  1 uucp  wheel   12, 1 Nov 12 08:41 /dev/tty01
> >> -r-sr-xr-x  1 uucp  wheel  141232 Jun 20 15:30 /usr/bin/cu*
> >>
> >> Issue following command.
> >> cu -l /dev/tty01 -s 38400
> >> (Speed and 01 are just an Example).
> >>
> >> (2) For 6360, sorry I don't have immediate answer with me now.
> >> ---
> >> Makoto Fujiwara
> >> http://www.ki.nu/software/NetBSD/iBook2/
> >> http://www.ki.nu/software/namazu/tutorial/

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