Interesting news - do you have a PC with a USB port on which you
	can test the keyboard? If not, does anyone have an iMac keyboard
	and PC with USB? If it proves to be a problem maybe someone can
	ship augustss an iMac keyboard so he has one to fix and for
	regression tests in future :)

                David/absolute
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Todd Whitesel wrote:

> I did some fooling around with USB_DEBUG and related defines today.
> 
> After watching the output roll by on the iMac screen for a while, I
> began to suspect that the complicated internal hubbage of the iMac
> keyboard might have something to do with it.
> 
> So I dug up a cheap Win98 USB keyboard from another project and gave
> that a try. Lo and behold, the iMac doesn't want to panic any more.
> 
> Interestingly, the keyboard works correctly while it is asking for the
> root device. However once it goes to multi-user the keyboard is totally
> dead -- the "shift" workaround has no effect, and I see no messages from
> the USB drivers at all.
> 
> So we appear to have one problem which is iMac/Apple _keyboard_ specific
> and another which is not.
> 
> 1.4.2 works fine (modulo a few quirks during boot) with both keyboards.
> 
> I know that -current started to go downhill in mid-may, as of the "glue"
> cleanup changes. After all the fooling around I've done, I think the glue
> changes weren't the cause, but they somehow managed to expose the failure.
> 
> Now that I can prevent the panic, I think I'll see if I can isolate the
> commit that brings in the dead-keyboard problem for me.
> 
> Todd Whitesel
> toddpw @ best.com
>