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Re: NetBSD 8.0 on a Mac LC III

Hello, Stan,

I'm trying to install NetBSD 8.0 on a Mac LC III.  In the past,
I've always used the traditional installation method, but that
doesn't seem to work with NetBSD 8.0 -- "Mkfs" and "NetBSD Install"
work in Mac OS as they did before, as long as everything is within
the first gigabyte on the disk, but when booting the system, the
kernel doesn't recognize the filesystem that was created by Mkfs.

So I'm using the sysinst method, which seems to be working, though

Slowly, but hopefully steadily :)

Some comments and suggestions:

1) If the traditional method no longer works and it isn't supported,
then it should be removed. The traditional method has always had the
issue that it works only within the first gigabyte on a disk, though
it was possible to install a minimal system, then boot into that to
complete the installation (and then use more than the first gigabyte).

I think many of us are hoping someone who knows the classic Mac OS well might modernize the tools. At very least, we should update the documentation.

2) The minikernel in the traditional method was also useful for
quickly moving files (such as new kernels) between Mac OS and NetBSD
(using cpin and cpout).

That'd certainly be easier than building sysutils/hfsutils.

3) Using the traditional method, a faster system, such as a G3 with
SCSI, could be used to install NetBSD on the disk of a mac68k system
from Mac OS relatively quickly.

Never thought about this, but of course.

4) In the sysinst method, it would be helpful if the sizes required
for each package (base, comp, etc and so on) could be listed, as well
as the running total (for / and /usr) of the packages selected so far.
As it is, it's not clear until the disk runs out of space that too
many packages were selected.  Also, several of the menus could use a
"Cancel" option; for example, the menu setting the type of a disk

These are some good ideas for modernizing the Mac OS installer. Supporting larger than 1 gig volumes and FFSv2 would make worrying about space less of an issue, and/or supporting having a small partition used for transferring files and booting the kernel in a simpler, better documented way would be good, too.


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