Subject: Re: 3.0RC3 and current from 19/11 for mac68ksoftfloat
To: None <port-mac68k@netbsd.org>
From: William Duke <wduke@cogeco.ca>
List: port-mac68k
Date: 12/01/2005 17:51:52
On December 1, 2005 04:09 am, you wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:25:02 -0500, William Duke <wduke@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> >Granted, just installing stuff to see if it will run on a 68k machine can
> > be fun for a while, but it does grow old.  I know that there are oodles
> > of network applications for the 68k Macintosh, like routing and guarding,
> > etc. What worthwhile applications are there for the 68k machines?
>
>    I've run the irssi and bitchx chat clients -- just for the fun of it,
> and for the OMG! reactions from the other participants when I tell them
> about it. :-) Those clients work quite well, by the way.
>
>    The intended use for my 68k NetBSD machines is chiefly to run them as
> "terminal servers" when testing applications at work (industrial
> automation). Many of those applications make a lot of noise, etc., and it's
> good to have them in a separate room (or a separate building) and let the
> NetBSD boxes route them to various X windows on my desktop computer.
>
>    I'm back to 1.6.2, by the way, mainly because I get too many "sn0
> receiver FIFO overrun" messages under 2.1. Such messages are virtually
> non-existent under 1.6.2.

I went back to 1.6.2 as well.  Although, my reasons are a little more simple:
I wanted color.

Yeah, I figured if the only way to get color on the 68k machines was to use
the 1.6.2 X packages, I may as well use the whole 1.6.2 kit and kaboodle.
So, that's exactly what I did.

There are other benefits to sticking with 1.6.2 as well.  I've listed some of
the benefits I like, below:

-  There is an abundance of pre-compiled packages for 1.6.2 that just work.
With 2.0, 2.0.2, and 2.1, I found that I was often missing required bits &
pieces from older NetBSD releases, even though newer releases allegedly
maintain backward compatibility with 1.6.x packages.

-  NetBSD is much smaller and requires much less disk space for a full
installation.

-  The color X server for 1.6.2 just works.  There's no muss and no fuss with
getting color X to work brilliantly on machines running 1.6.2.

-  When doing fresh installations, installing 1.6.2 takes about half the time
as the newer larger releases.

-  There aren't a whole lot of "improvements" in the newer releases that are
worthwhile to users of the 68k Macintosh machines.


That's just my take on the situation, but I'm perfectly content with running
1.6.2 on my 68k Macs. ;)

Regards,

Willy