Has anyone else noticed this? I've tried to compile several kernels on my Centris 650, and any that don't have DDB in them fail to boot. The line it's about to print (but never does) is: [preserving xxx bytes of netbsd a.out symbol table] jf -- John Franklin franklin@elfie.org ICBM: N37 12'54", W80 27'14" Z+2100'