Generally I used 'tcpdump not ip'. Providing you do not have
	much in the way of SNA or IPX traffic its fine :)

		David/absolute

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On Tue, 12 May 1998, Henry B. Hotz wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what expression I should use with tcpdump to
> get a record of the Appletalk packets exchanged through a NetBSD router
> between a Mac and a printer.  The AppleTalk-aware version of snoop on my
> Sun only sees the broadcast and multicast traffic (we have switched hubs).
> 
> I have a failure perhaps similar to the one reported a few days ago and
> would like to provide some additional data if I can.  The symptoms I see
> are that everyone can see the zone I created, only my PMac can ever see the
> printer, and about 2/3 of the time I can't print to it because the printer
> can't be found.
> 
> A perhaps significant detail is that once a print job starts it always runs
> to completion with no problems.
> 
> Oh, yes, some background:  Q840/MacBSD 1.3.0 with two Ethernet interfaces,
> mc0 connected to same subnet as the PMac 7600/150, ae0 connected only to an
> HP LaserJet 5MP with a JetDirect Ethernet interface.  All network numbers
> are lots bigger than 256.
> 
> Signature failed Preliminary Design Review.
> Feasibility of a new signature is currently being evaluated.
> h.b.hotz@jpl.nasa.gov, or hbhotz@oxy.edu
> 
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