hello,
        thanks for all the help thus-far .   :)
ok, as for, me not being able to get dt-1.1.4, amung others, to install
the common error I get are:
failed to find cc
faiedl to find gcc ( I think this is the SunOs gcc)
and las but not lease I don't seem to have a libXpm.so.4.3.

I don't know what files are in what gzip on the ftp sites thus I don't know
where to get what I am looking for.
        I bet you are all LOL at me for not knowing all of this.  doh!  :\

PS: what happen to the cs.mcgill site?  I can't get it, I'm even calling
from montreal?
fire wall?

Cheers! thanks for your time
Dale Einarson