Subject: IIcx upgrade to 1.3, PPP and more
To: None <port-mac68k@NetBSD.ORG>
From: J R Gasser <esrpo@eng.warwick.ac.uk>
List: port-mac68k
Date: 01/16/1998 10:24:12
Here are a number of questions, most of which could be resolved by
several (?many?) hours studying the man pages and Howtos and FAQs.  I
am hoping that it's OK to post for a quick solution to save a lot of
time as I want to get a 1.3 system up as soon as possible, my goal is
not to learn as much as possible about system administration.

IIcx, 8 M ram, 1 Gbyte disk.  External (slow) CD-ROM drive
Dead floppy drive, so if all goes wrong I can't restore through that route.

This machine arrived in my hands (instead of going into a rubbish bin)
with NetBSD 1.1 set up from CD-ROM distribution.  I have no knowledge
of Macs and won't want to use a Mac-OS (but I know plenty about modems
and datacomms and Intel hardware, and I have a functional knowledge of
Sun UNIX)

My aim is to get the IIcx running NetBSD1.3 and then actually use it
for serious work, which seems abundantly feasible from what I have
read in this mailing list in the last three months or so.  As far as I
can tell from reading this list, it should be straightforward to
download the tar's of 1.3 and with the 1 Gbyte disk I have there
should be enough space to unpack them and make the new system.
Fortunately the kernel I have supports ppp.

FIRST QUESTION

There have been a number of postings like the following:


        X-Sender: roger@hornet
        Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:10:44 -0800
        To: port-mac68k@NetBSD.ORG
        From: "Roger D. Linder" <roger@water.ca.gov>
        Subject: Can't boot netbsd 1.3 - hung at adb: keyboard test
        Precedence: list
        Delivered-To: port-mac68k@NetBSD.ORG

        I'm trying to upgrade my IIcx running 1.2.1 to 1.3, but can't get the new
        kernel to boot. It appears to hang up at the adb keyboard test(?) and
        requires a hard boot to recover. The display below (which I've typed, but I
        believe is accurate) tells the whole story. Any advice?


Should I wait before installing 1.3 until this is sorted or go ahead
anyway?  And if I go ahead, what kernal do I use (or is this
self-explanatory once I have the documentation to 1.3)?


QUESTION TWO

I have PPP workingbut not routing.  (thanks to a website someone has
posted, can't find the URL to offer thanks here) i.e. I can dial up
and log in to my ISP (fortunately they give me a fixed internet
number).  I can ping the comms gateway machine that is answering me
but without routing I obviously don't get beyond that one machine.

Clearly one fix is to list every site I want to access in /etc/hosts
(as all I want to do right now is upgrade to 1.3 that is feasible but
ugly)  Can someone give me a hand if there is a better quick fix.  It
is all in the man pages I know, but I want to just do this and not
necessarily spend time studying the problem.  I am familiar with all
the usual stuff of setting up Internet access for Microsoft Windows so
brief technical answers or simply sample files would be enough.


QUESTION THREE

I am less than clear on how to load a newer booter (I have v1.1) as it
seems that I need a newer version for BSD1.3  Is there a Howto on
getting a booter in to the Mac-OS for those who don't know about Macs?
I assume that I can download a compressed binary under BSD1.1 and then
get it into the Mac part of the system somehow, maybe this is wrong.


QUESTION FOUR

I haven't seen much about BSD1.1 anywhere, is it right to assume that
the "update from 1.2 to 1.3 within NetBSD" instructions should hold
good for a jump from 1.1 to 1.3 or are there specific things to watch.


QUESTION FIVE

Caps lock isn't working on the keyboard at present, is going to 1.3
likely to solve this (annoying but not totally crucial....).


QUESTION  SIX

Like for many users 'shutdown' doesn't work cleanly for me.  However
'halt' not only closes down the system nicely and then powers off the
computer, it also wakes it up a couple of seconds later and reboots.
I didn't see (late last night) a parameter to add to halt to get it to
NOT reboot, is there one and I missed something obvious.

AND FINALLY

Thanks to all who help in this remarkable NetBSD project that provides
a powerful free OS on hardware that would otherwise be thrown
away. It's such a good alternative to Microsloth's "buy it now and
throw it away tomorrow" culture that supplies often poor products with
little technical support.


Russell.