wb2oyc wrote:
> 
> >It would be good if you could try it. Mine was working correctly with an 
> >early alpha kernal (built late october), but was having problems with
> >kernals built towards the end of the alpha period - so it would be good
> >if you could try a late alpha or beta kernal.
> >
> OK, I did it, but it was a bit of a struggle.  And, it isn't going to
> tell us much either I'm afraid.
> 
> I first just installed the SLOTMAN kernel (circa Nov. 15th, so its 
> pretty much up to snuff I think).  I did that this morning while having
> my 1st coffee (maybe that was bad luck).  I installed it over the NetBSD
> 1.2.1 system already on the disk.  Bonkers!  No good.  Wouldn't even boot
> on the IIci (its probably something stupid to do I guess, but that kernel
> works on 1.2.1 as you'll see).  So, I said, oh, what the devil and I just
> started a complete install of 1.3Alpha after mkfs'ng the disk to be sure.

Where did it hang?
 
> So, that wasn't finished before I left for work.  Come home tonite, boot
> it up fine on the IIci just to be sure it works.  Cool!  Put the disk on
> the Q605 and this is what happens.....

Oops...big mistake...read the INSTALL doc!

> Using booter 1.11.0 I get this line, and thats it: no mas!
> 
> [ preserving 318491 bytes of netbsd symbol table ]
> 
> Geez!  Now, my Q605 has 20MB of RAM, is running MacOS 7.6.  Bummer is
> that I installed the 1.3 stuff on top of what was my only 1.2.1 system
> so I can't try that on it now either....

Don't bother.  If you'll take a look at the supported hardware section of
the INSTALL doc or the machine-status page, both should indicate that
NetBSD doesn't currently support a Quadra 605.  The problem with this
machine is similar to that with the Classic Macs and the PowerBooks, most
likely a video mapping problem.

> With the older booter (I think its 1.8--can't find where it tells me
> what it is) I get a box on boot that says:
>    NetBSD/Mac68k has not yet been proven to work on your machine.
> 
>     Boot Anyway                 Cancel Boot
> 
> Telling it Boot Anyway, and I get no further than the line above!

Yes, this is a long-standing (i.e. it's always been this way) bug.

> So this is about useless I'm afraid, but even worse, I learned there
> must be something terribly out of sorts with my Q605!

Well, not really, it's just that we don't know how to map the internal
video on it quite correctly...

> >I believe all Q605s (and LC475) came with 64LC040's, so if you haven't
> >changed it then that is what your machine will have. This shouldn't
> >be a problem, as you should have no problem booting to single user with
> >it - though it will soon crash if you try to go to multi-user. My panic
> >always happens just before firing up the single user shell.
> 
> Hmmm, not mine!  Did I screw up and should I have made sure extensions
> were off or something?  It was a surprise to me that when that line was
> all that was displayed I could do the three-finger salute to reboot the
> Mac!
>
> I have a bad feeling that I did something really stupid here, or that
> I should have done differently, whatever.

Don't worry, you didn't do anything wrong.  It'd be nice if you were
willing to help test once someone figures out how to properly map the
memory on that model of machine (or you could work on it yourself, of
course :-)

Later.

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Colin Wood                                 cwood@ichips.intel.com
Component Design Engineer - MD6                 Intel Corporation
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