Sorry about MIME going to the list. BA-

Try this instead. From the FAQ-O-Matic :

<a
http://cobweb.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/jonh/faqomatic/sysconfig/disks/faq.pl>FAQ-O-Matic /sysconfig/disks/</a>


<a
http://cobweb.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/jonh/faqomatic/sysconfig/disks/faq.pl?question=6> 6. How can I use Apple's free HD SC Setup 7.3.5 to
partition my drive for MkLinux? 
</a>

Note that- HD SC will refuse to partition your drive until you do a
low-level format and install the driver. 
And you can use pdisk from the MacOS side on your 8500 to view and change
the partition table.  I recomend you use HD SC to do the partitioning.
Then remember that only the devices (two  only ) on each end of the SCSI
chain is to be terminated. The extenal drive should be configured with
termination removed from the drive. Termination is done by the enclosuer or
with external temination.

--------------Here is what  pdisk shows for my system-------------

This app uses the SIOUX console library
Choose 'Quit' from the file menu to quit.

Use MkLinux style disk names (i.e. /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.).

Top level command (? for help): L
/dev/sda
   #:                 type name                length   base    ( size )
   1:  Apple_partition_map Apple                   63 @ 1      
   2:       Apple_Driver43 Macintosh               64 @ 64     
   3:       Apple_Driver43 Macintosh               64 @ 128    
   4:        Apple_Patches Patch Partition        512 @ 192    
   5:            Apple_HFS MacOS              1064521 @ 704     (519.8M)
   6:           Apple_Free Extra                   10 @ 1065225

Block size=512, Number of Blocks=1065234
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 18, type=0x1
2: @ 128 for 32, type=0xffff

pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdb'
/dev/sdc
   #:                 type name                length   base    ( size )
   1:  Apple_partition_map Apple                   63 @ 1      
   2:       Apple_Driver43 Macintosh               32 @ 64     
   3:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Root file system    198000 @ 96      ( 96.7M)
   4:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Swap                258000 @ 198096  (126.0M)
   5:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Usr file system     638544 @ 456096  (311.8M)
   6:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 1       1011028 @ 1094640 (493.7M)
   7:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 2       1090887 @ 2105668 (532.7M)
   8:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 3       1277136 @ 3196555 (623.6M)
   9:      Apple_UNIX_SVR2 A/UX Root          1064315 @ 4473691 (519.7M)
  10:            Apple_HFS MacOS               743850 @ 5538006 (363.2M)

Block size=512, Number of Blocks=6281856
DeviceType=0x1, DeviceId=0x1
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 19, type=0x1

pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdd'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sde'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdf'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdg'
Top level command (? for help):


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>On Sun, Jul 6, 1997 7:25 AM, T. Sean (Theo) Schulze
<mailto:71410.25@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
> This isn't a NetBSD/mac68k specific problem, but because I suspect that a

> number of list members have a wealth of experience formatting and 
> preparing hard drives for use with NetBSD/mac68k, I hope someone here
> can 
> help me.
> 
> I am having problems formatting a Quantum Empire 2100S to use with 
> NetBSD/mac68k on my Mac IIci or with MkLinux on my PPC 8500/120.  I 
> bought the drive at a computer fair in Sept. '95, and installed it in an 
> external housing I had bought for it.  When I tried to format it with 
> FWB's Hard Drive Toolkit, HDT correctly recognized the drive as an Empire

> 2100S, but showed its size as 0MB.  It would also not allow me to select 
> the drive for formatting.  I took the drive to a Apple dealer, and he 
> could also not get it to work.
> 
> I kept trying different things, including getting some pretty good 
> customer service and terminating resistors from Quantum.  Finally, 
> Quantum agreed to accept the drive for repair (for a price), and I sent 
> it off to them.  Rather than repair the drive, they replaced it.  
> Unfortunately, I still have the same problem with the replacement drive. 

> So, obviously, the problem must lie elsewhere. :-)
> 
> One other odd thing I have noticed about the drive is that I will turn 
> the drive on before starting up the computer (MacOS boot), but as the 
> computer starts up, the Empire 2100S will spin down and then spin back up

> again.
> 
> Can anyone give me an idea what the problem could be?  I have tried a 
> number of formatting utilities to include HDT and a few formatters on the

> Apple Club CD.  No joy.  I know termination is an area where problems 
> often crop up, but I am not really sure how to test for those type of 
> problems.  I am close to buying a SCSIVue Active Terminator, because I 
> read somewhere that active terminators often help clear up termination 
> problems.  Is that worth a shot?
> 
> IIRC, Apple's earlier versions of HD Setup would not work with drives 
> using a non-Apple driver.  Could something like this be part of the 
> problem?   I mean, if the drive were formatted for DOS or some other OS, 
> would that cause this kind of behavior?  If that is the problem, might I 
> be able to use the drive with a Pentium or 486 machine I am in the 
> beginning stages of building?  (I'd need a SCSI controller card, though, 
> wouldn't I?)
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Sean.
> 
> 
>                  T. Sean (Theo) Schulze
> 71410.25@compuserve.com           TSSchulze@aol.com
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