Subject: Re: Hard drive formatting problem
To: None <PORT-MAC68K@NetBSD.ORG>
From: Bruce Anderson <brucea@wavefront.com>
List: port-mac68k
Date: 07/06/1997 21:30:00
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Try this instead. From the FAQ-O-Matic :
<<a <FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Geneva</PARAM>http://cobweb.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bi=
n/cgiwrap/jonh/faqomatic/sysconfig/disks/faq.pl</FONTFAMILY>>FAQ-O-Mati=
c /sysconfig/disks/<</a>
<FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Geneva</PARAM><<a http://cobweb.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bi=
n/cgiwrap/jonh/faqomatic/sysconfig/disks/faq.pl?question=3D6> 6. How
can I use Apple's free HD SC Setup 7.3.5 to partition my drive for
MkLinux? <</a>
Note that- HD SC will refuse to partition your drive until you do a
low-level format and install the driver.
</FONTFAMILY>And you can use pdisk from the MacOS side on your 8500 to
view and change the partition table. I recomend you use HD SC to do
the partitioning.
Then remember that only the devices (two only ) on each end of the
SCSI chain is to be terminated. The extenal drive should be configured
with termination removed from the drive. Termination is done by the
enclosuer or with external temination.
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--------------Here is what pdisk shows for my system-------------
This app uses the SIOUX console library
Choose 'Quit' from the file menu to quit.
Use MkLinux style disk names (i.e. /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.).
Top level command (? for help): L
/dev/sda
#: type name length base ( size
)
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
2: Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 64 @ 64
3: Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 64 @ 128
4: Apple_Patches Patch Partition 512 @ 192
5: Apple_HFS MacOS 1064521 @ 704
(519.8M)
6: Apple_Free Extra 10 @ 1065225
Block size=3D512, Number of Blocks=3D1065234
DeviceType=3D0x0, DeviceId=3D0x0
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 18, type=3D0x1
2: @ 128 for 32, type=3D0xffff
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdb'
/dev/sdc
#: type name length base ( size
)
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
2: Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 32 @ 64
3: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Root file system 198000 @ 96 (
96.7M)
4: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Swap 258000 @ 198096
(126.0M)
5: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Usr file system 638544 @ 456096
(311.8M)
6: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 1 1011028 @ 1094640
(493.7M)
7: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 2 1090887 @ 2105668
(532.7M)
8: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Unreserved 3 1277136 @ 3196555
(623.6M)
9: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 A/UX Root 1064315 @ 4473691
(519.7M)
10: Apple_HFS MacOS 743850 @ 5538006
(363.2M)
Block size=3D512, Number of Blocks=3D6281856
DeviceType=3D0x1, DeviceId=3D0x1
Drivers-
1: @ 64 for 19, type=3D0x1
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdd'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sde'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdf'
pdisk: can't open file '/dev/sdg'
Top level command (? for help):
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Bruce Anderson
Burnsville MN, USA
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>On Sun, Jul 6, 1997 7:25 AM,
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wrote:
<FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Geneva</PARAM>> This isn't a NetBSD/mac68k specific
problem, but because I suspect that a
> number of list members have a wealth of experience formatting and
> preparing hard drives for use with NetBSD/mac68k, I hope someone
here
> can
> help me.
>
> I am having problems formatting a Quantum Empire 2100S to use with
> NetBSD/mac68k on my Mac IIci or with MkLinux on my PPC 8500/120. I
> bought the drive at a computer fair in Sept. '95, and installed it
in an
> external housing I had bought for it. When I tried to format it
with
> FWB's Hard Drive Toolkit, HDT correctly recognized the drive as an
Empire
> 2100S, but showed its size as 0MB. It would also not allow me to
select
> the drive for formatting. I took the drive to a Apple dealer, and
he
> could also not get it to work.
>
> I kept trying different things, including getting some pretty good
> customer service and terminating resistors from Quantum. Finally,
> Quantum agreed to accept the drive for repair (for a price), and I
sent
> it off to them. Rather than repair the drive, they replaced it.
> Unfortunately, I still have the same problem with the replacement
drive.
> So, obviously, the problem must lie elsewhere. :-)
>
> One other odd thing I have noticed about the drive is that I will
turn
> the drive on before starting up the computer (MacOS boot), but as
the
> computer starts up, the Empire 2100S will spin down and then spin
back up
> again.
>
> Can anyone give me an idea what the problem could be? I have tried
a
> number of formatting utilities to include HDT and a few formatters
on the
> Apple Club CD. No joy. I know termination is an area where
problems
> often crop up, but I am not really sure how to test for those type
of
> problems. I am close to buying a SCSIVue Active Terminator, because
I
> read somewhere that active terminators often help clear up
termination
> problems. Is that worth a shot?
>
> IIRC, Apple's earlier versions of HD Setup would not work with
drives
> using a non-Apple driver. Could something like this be part of the
> problem? I mean, if the drive were formatted for DOS or some other
OS,
> would that cause this kind of behavior? If that is the problem,
might I
> be able to use the drive with a Pentium or 486 machine I am in the
> beginning stages of building? (I'd need a SCSI controller card,
though,
> wouldn't I?)
>
> TIA,
>
> Sean.
>
>
> T. Sean (Theo) Schulze
> 71410.25@compuserve.com TSSchulze@aol.com
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