Cool, I've downloaded all of these programs and have a couple of problems.
First of all where does the Mosaic and the popclient untar files to, where
would I configure them, and what are the keywords to run them?  Second of
all in what directory should the untar'd pine directory be placed?  Should
I put it in /usr/bin or /usr/share/bin or /usr/local/bin or should the
files be all placed in one of those directories and the pine directory just
deleted?

>Hi,
>
>Let's see if we can't set you up with some Internet software so you can
>put the MacOS to rest for good. ;->
>
>On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Albert Carter wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for all of your help.  I know have PPP up and running
>> sucessfully, but I'm back to my MacOS again to write this.  I have several
>> questions about internet related software.  First of all is the ircII-2.9
>> found on ftp.netbsd.org what I should be using?  I've got a Mac IIsi
>
>I don't use IRC, but I assume that should be OK for your set-up.
>
>> running NetBSD 1.2 Generic #1 Kernal.  Second of all is there a version of
>> Netscape out there that is compatible with this setup and is it fairly easy
>> to set up under NetBSD also how does it run, does it work with X and how
>
>{Un}fortunately, there is no version of Netscape that I know of that will
>work with NetBSD/mac68k.  However, I have been happily using Mosaic for
>some time.  You can download a pre-compiled copy at:
>
>ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-Amiga/contrib/X11/Mosaic-2.7b3-bin11.tar.gz
>
>Be sure to get the b3 version.  There are newer versions, but they were
>compiled with Lesstif and crashed constantly on my machine.  BTW, web
>browsing in b/w is not pretty.  You might also consider downloading lynx.
>
>For e-mail, I use a combination of POPclient and Pine.  POPclient connects
>to a POP3 server and downloads your e-mail and puts it into your mailbox
>on your NetBSD box.  Pine is a easy-to-use e-mail program.  You can find a
>pre-compiled version of POPclient at:
>
>ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-Amiga/contrib/popclient-2.21-bin10.tar.gz
>
>In the same directory, you will also find a copy of archie which is
>useful for searching for software.  You can find pine at:
>
>ftp://ftp.macbsd.com/pub/NetBSD/contrib/unix/pine.tar.gz
>
>There is a copy of lynx in the same directory as above.
>
>> does it look in Black and White?  Also today I had a problem with PPP.  I
>> needed to use the phone so while compiling ircII-2.9 the modem had
>> disconnected so I picked up the phone to make my phone call.  When I tried
>> to connect again it insisted that it was connected.  I tried typing in
>> ppp-stop and it said it had killed pppd.  I did a ps -aux and found pppd
>> still active.  So I sent a kill -1 <pid of pppd> and got no response.  I
>> then sent a kill -9 <pid of pppd> and still no response.  Is pppd an
>> exception to kill statement if so how do I get it restarted because it
>
>AFAIK, you should be able to kill pppd like any other process.  Here is
>the script I use (compliments of Bill Studenmund's PPP kit) to take down a
>ppp connection:
>
>--------------
>#!/bin/sh
>p=`cd /proc; grep -l '^pppd' */status | sed 's,^\([0-9]*\)/.*$,\1,'`
>#
>if [ -n "$p" ]; then
>  echo -n killing pppd...
>  kill $p
>  echo done
>else
>  echo ppp already is down 1>&2
>fi
>---------
>
>A hint for people with ppp problems, using X, I usually keep a shell open
>with a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' running so I can see what is going on.
>
>Mark
>
>> absolutely refused to work.  The other thing I'd like to get set up is a
>> mail program so I can start recieving mail through unix.  Any way of doing
>> this is it built into NetBSD or do I need to download something like POP3
>> and set it up?
>
>Mark Andres             E-mail: mark@giganet.net
>    Running NetBSD and 100% Microsoft Free!
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