i got qpopper, only to see that it was not what i wanted. i want something that will pop my mail from cris.com to my mail directory on my netbsd system. can anyone recommend something? -xiamin Technomagus artium occultarum detestibiliumque Nargumm Industries http://www.cris.com/~ingerrn http://www.netvirtual.com/iris/simon/art.html