Allen said that it would prob. be the grf. here's my grf line grf0 at nubus0 :640 x 870 monochr. QD comp. (Mac. Disp. Card) Display and my monitor is an Apple two page monitor with it's own display card. anyone ? -- Tinusz Nijmeijers Un sot trouve toujours un tinusz@xs4all.nl plus sot qui l'admire. S.H.