In message <200610041626.MAA12526@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>, der Mouse wr
ites:
>The last, and to an extent the first, are opinion.  (I, for example,
>don't find it comfortable, and find it easy only when I want to do
>things it's anticipated.)

I tend to agree.  I use OS X for some stuff, but I like my hand-tuned NetBSD
setup with ion3 much better.

>> - You can get applications like Roxio Toast Titanium or Apple's iLife
>>   06 which makes editing a video file or turning it into a DVD very
>>   easy.

>Again, if that's what you want to do, that's a perfectly valid reasons.
>If not, it's totally irrelevant.

Yeah.  Anyway, I can't get Toast, because Roxio are incredibly stupid
spammers.  They started spamming me and then, despite literally dozens of
emails, phone calls, and so on, never managed to stop.  (Well, it's been
a while, but...)  But frankly, not an issue for me.  I can burn data DVDs,
and that's fine.

>>      Mac OS X is a BSD after all.

>It is?  I thought the kernel was Mach, and BSD came into it only in
>that the parts of userland that came from the Unix world came
>principally from the BSDs.

>I'm not sure whether I think that's enough to call it a BSD.

You can use it as a BSD, but the GUI is very top-heavy and gets in your way.
:)

But in any event, I want to run NetBSD on my mini.  So far, I can't get it to
happen; it looks as though 3.0.1 hangs, and -current isn't buildable right
now (yesterday was auth_pam, today is gmon and ROUNDUP macros).

FWIW, SuSE 10 at least gets far enough to start its installer on the machine,
so it's not totally impossible to run free software on this.  My guess is
there's just some ATA quirk that may even have been fixed by now.

-s